If it can be proven to be a more successful use of energy to put less players in the tackle, invest less into the wrestle and more into setting your defensive shape early and into line speed and effectiveness at marker that would be a huge step in changing the game again for the better. I hope this may be the thinking

Dunneman was quality, always rated him myself.

Another player I’ve enjoyed watching in the games is Wayne Macdonald, not the best player always had a few too many mistakes in him but entertaining watching such a big bloke running round sometimes like a back

Also great watching Barry Mac in his pomp


What’s also been interesting watching some of these more recent games, theres been players I totally forgot we had signed.

Millard, Mark O’Neil 2 Id totally forgotton about for some reason!

McDonald was so underrated. He was one of those players nobody rated when we signed him, so he passed under the radar during his time here. But he was our best prop in that 03-05 period IMO.

Odd to reply to my own post but I was watching the scrap when Izzard went after Grima and at the end I saw Paul Hulme lying on the deck very, very worse for wear. I spent a few minutes trying to work out what happened to him and then there it was, Steve O'Neill knocking his own player out. Gary Lord had stuck one on O'Neill at the start of the fracas and as things were calming down O'Neill saw Lord come into range and swung one - unfortunately Hulme was stood between them and copped one flush on the chin. I'd never noticed that before. Extremely funny. Wonder if O'Neill owned up afterwards

70 metres through the entire Saints team - best props try ever.

thackerays takes some beating

Think people are getting bit carried away by Dunemann and Mcdonald. Good players but not world beaters.....

At the time (2002-2004) Dunneman was superior in all around game to Burrow and McGuire. He also filled in brilliantly at 9 when we lost Diskin in 2005. I still am convinced that if Joe Vagana had not fallen on Senior's leg in the home league game- basically ending his season (even though he "played" in the CC final) we would have won everything in 2005 and Dunneman would have been a key part of that. We played the best rugby I've seen from a Leeds team and were so close in everything (and let's not forget the Bulls salary cap breach that year and Adrian Morley appearing for their playoff games).

He was a bit of an enigma.

for some reason smith flogged the players every session in 05. they had nothing left come gf time.
having said that the bulls should have been stripped of that title. blatant cheating the cap

didn't hull and wigan also breach everyone we came to 2nd to .............................best rugby that season ali at his best but faded , dunneman great transitional link
.mcdonald , feather thackray had their moments but missing the mongrel/attitude of jp/dicko (paul but even a bit of big roy would have done)