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| Just to add, can’t believe some are saying Merrin is a waste of Marquee spot, he’s absolute quality but needs to be at LF or SR
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| It was a good game and we probably got away with one given that spell were Hurrell in particular was outstanding in the first half. Once we sorted that right side out though you seemed to lack a plan B and struggled. I think you’ll finish in the top 5 though especially if Hurrell carries on like that. Not sure I’m getting all the criticism of the officials though. Apart from the knock on call at the end I’m not sure what he got wrong for Leeds (definitely wasn’t a double movement)? And you did score off the back of a penalty for a ball steal on Hurrell when it was a clear knock on.
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| Quote: AS108 "It was a good game and we probably got away with one given that spell were Hurrell in particular was outstanding in the first half. Once we sorted that right side out though you seemed to lack a plan B and struggled. I think you’ll finish in the top 5 though especially if Hurrell carries on like that. Not sure I’m getting all the criticism of the officials though. Apart from the knock on call at the end I’m not sure what he got wrong for Leeds (definitely wasn’t a double movement)? And you did score off the back of a penalty for a ball steal on Hurrell when it was a clear knock on.'"
Giving a tap on the twenty because Tui let go of the ball when he thought he’d scored a try? I don’t think ive ever seen that before?
I also think your definitely wasn’t a double movement is questionable
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| Early signs are that Walker has a hamstring strain, and Ward has medial ligament damage, so hopefully not as bad as first feared.
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| Quote: christopher "Giving a tap on the twenty because Tui let go of the ball when he thought he’d scored a try? I don’t think ive ever seen that before?
I also think your definitely wasn’t a double movement is questionable'"
I'm sure I've seen it before on sky at least once this season already. Maybe it's a new interpretation
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| wasn't penalised at any other game I've ever seen. hicks making it up as he goes. first try Cummings straight away called double movement. then changed his mind. we got shafted again
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| Quote: tad rhino "wasn't penalised at any other game I've ever seen. hicks making it up as he goes. first try Cummings straight away called double movement. then changed his mind. we got shafted again'"
It’s a double movement any day of the week in the history of the game. Either they have secretly changed the rules, or the officials are incompetent.
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| I agree. momentum was stopped.
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| Quote: Les Norton "I’m not sure, Dwyer played out of his skin. Roby has the luxury of a better set of props.
Don’t get me wrong, Roby is the the better player, not many are as good as Roby, including NRL. But tonight, Dwyer was outstanding. If only we had a couple of decent props.....'"
Our props tried hard enough but those three tries from their England props won Saints the game. We were losing the ruck again in that second half. When Thompson and Walmsley get a roll on it does help Roby - but that is a cracking front row.
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| It is a fantastic front row, which would grace most sides in NRL let alone SL, but as others have said our goal line D was poor - as much as I like Walmsley he shouldn't get in for one let alone both scores.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "Reminiscent of Peacock being penalised for offside as we kicked off. Never seen anyone else penalised for it and he got done twice.'"
We were offside from one restart last night actually. End of the day you just want consistency from the referees, these outliers are frustrating. Play the balls generally are rubbish this year, players lazily throwing the ball under their feet, not being refereed this year...
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| A very good display overall and we are moving in the right direction. Attack is starting to gel and we look a threat with the ball. Our trouble was getting field position in the Saints half. A mixture of lack of go forward at times and a poor long kicking game. When Saints had their starting front row on we couldn't handle them. Oh for a Walmsley, a luke Thompson or a Garbutt........
Thought Lolohea looked better ball in hand but his defence was a joke at times. It needs sorting asap.
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| Quote: tad rhino "I agree. momentum was stopped.'"
I thought Fages crawled forward with his elbow after being grounded and then promoted the ball, double movement for me.
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "A very good display overall and we are moving in the right direction. Attack is starting to gel and we look a threat with the ball. Our trouble was getting field position in the Saints half. A mixture of lack of go forward at times and a poor long kicking game. When Saints had their starting front row on we couldn't handle them. Oh for a Walmsley, a luke Thompson or a Garbutt........
Thought Lolohea looked better ball in hand but his defence was a joke at times. It needs sorting asap.'"
Agree with this. Sutcliffe suspect in defence too on the same side, Tui needs good defenders either side. Saints really targeted that channel, as will other teams.
Also think it’s worth commenting on the Rhinos away support, they were fantastic.
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| The issue for me is that ref has to make a decision when sending up a decision to the video ref even tho he doesn't know.
If the double movement had been sent as a no try and Lolohea had been sent as a try then both decisions, I'm convinced, would have been given that way and that isn't right.
For a ref to send a decision to the video ref it's because he isn't certain so why does he have to make a guess before sending it upstairs? It's wrong and not fair on the ref especially when his guess is clearly having an impact on the decision given.
If that 1st try wasn't a double movement then what the hell is? I don't blame Hicks, at full speed with bodies around him and probably a bad angle but how the video ref can look at that a few times and still give a try is beyond me.
It would be interesting to know how the stats look on referees giving try for the home team and no try to the visitors before sending upstairs when making his guess.
I thought we was fantastic last night as I've said before, I left the ground pleased with what I had watched. I don't think we got what we deserved at all but on that showing I'm confident we are heading in the right direction under Furner. Really impressed with the depth and shape of our attack last night. We look a coached team and i haven't thought that for many a day.
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