We don't agree to differ, you are wrong on the intake of players. I have seen these first hand over the previous six years, and their have been plenty of quality at that level. Better than what Wigan were picking up. It is the development that was the problem, and where in Lancashire they did it so much better.

You seem to be looking at it from the under 19's point of view, i.e. development. On that we are in agreement. Just not on the scholarship side of things, where you are incorrect.

Fair enough - Cameron Smith is a prime example I suppose.

I can't believe we haven't had a quality half back in the academy for 15 years but that is the case - that says to me the intake is great because even Leeds couldn't screw that up.

So you’re saying that some U19 and over age players should’ve been binned off earlier and younger players sent on dual reg?

Absolutely on the over age. Walters a typical example, never make a star player in his life, but still we continued to persist.

Newman went out this year and starred in the Championship. Should have been left there most of the year. Then you would have had an example of a success of dual reg.

And I love it. Wanes attitude towards promoting youth has to be commended. Wish we had a coach with a similar attitude

me too. I'd have him as next coach in an instant

I get you.

Seems fair enough. However I still think forwards need a bit of extra time before a judgement can be made. Not all are prodigies that are ready at 19 like Crooks, Fielden, Burgess etc even if you can make decisions about some like Walters.

I think a reserves is more beneficial than DR and loan deals. Especially for forwards. The step up from U19s to SL is massive for forwards and halfbacks. There needs to be a bridge that offers consistency and I'm not sure that being farmed out to different clubs with different coaches, priorities, facilities is the way to do it. The choice should be reserves or a full season loan. DR leaves players unsettled and devalues other clubs and competitions IMO.

DR often results in players at the receiving club are displaced at short notice. A friend of mine who is a coach at such a club related that he got a call the day before a match to say that the dual reg partner wanted a player to play in the next game (i.e. the next day). Unfortunately he had to play the DR player - the position he was taking was for a young up and coming kid who had been playing all season and had been man of the match in the last game and had a good understanding with the guys playing around him (having trained with them regularly).

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Was it in Lewis Jones biography where he says about playing in the reserves at the end of his career and how it helped the youngsters. We take about ethos of the club etc, surely having a reserve grade where the up and coming young players can learn from some of the older guys who are coming to end or returning from injury is beneficial. For me, it should be reserve with clubs still able to loan, but for a period of time. I never understood how it would help a lower league team to have SL players available one week and not know if they would the following. Likewise, does a player get much out of a 'guest' appearance?

If we are not producing quality players why? We have had some big 'names'(and continue to do so) coaching these kids blokes that have played SL at the highest level?

top players don't always make top coaches. in any sport

Nothing against Delaney, he has served the club well. but I have just read this in the Yorkshire Post

"Delaney, who made his debut in 2010, is out of contract this autumn, but the Yorkshire Evening Post understands a new deal is on the table"

Seriously ! I cannot believe we are even considering this !

He said nothing is settled. He doesn't know ,still talking ,but whatever he is still playing on .Looks like the club have offered him lower than he could get at Say KR or Trinity and he wants two years