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If it involves Leeds, it'll be anything but comfortable pal.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "It looks to me like McGuire might be fit in which case Sutcliffe drops to the bench in place of Baldwinson. Ward in 2nd row and JJB at loose with Cuthbertson, Mullaly, Keinhorst and Sutcliffe on the bench. They perhaps want Baldwinson to get more game time at Fev at this stage of the season.'"


That's the thing, he's had plenty of game time there. Why name him in the 17, give him 5 mins then drop (??) him. He should be getting game time for us.

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Quote: D4mo78 "That's the thing, he's had plenty of game time there. Why name him in the 17, give him 5 mins then drop (??) him. He should be getting game time for us.'"

perfect game for him Friday, a rough home pack who run out of puff around the 30min mark Baldwinson should have got a good 20-30 mins game time. but if he is out because of injury or he will be given a start or long game time against salford, maybe mcd wants to rotate the forwards a bit more this year. But if he is just plain dropped, after just a 5min cameo then would not be surprised if he asked for a release.

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Quote: GUBRATS "No you've purposely ignored the point , the equivalent of the away fans area IS the Carnegie at Headingley'"

How have I ignored the point ? The equivalent of the away fans area at Headingley is the Western Terrace, tickets that will cost you £20 from your club shop when the return fixture comes around at Headingley. You put your hand in your pocket, you ask the member of staff how much a ticket is for Leeds v Leigh, they hand you a ticket from your allocation, and you give them 20 English pounds. When we come to Leigh, we ask for a ticket at our club shop, they tell us our allocation is £25 per ticket, and we hand (or don't) them 25 English pounds. Our allocation costs £25, yours will cost £20, it's a simple as that. Maybe if you played at a decent new-build stadium (like Warrington or St Helens),where working class fans are catered for with at least 2 standing terraces, we wouldn't be talking about this. Either that or get a reasonable pricing structure for away fans like the other Superleague clubs that have all seater stadiums.

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Does neither club accept Scottish pound notes?

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Quote: leeds owl "How have I ignored the point ? The equivalent of the away fans area at Headingley is the Western Terrace, tickets that will cost you £20 from your club shop when the return fixture comes around at Headingley. You put your hand in your pocket, you ask the member of staff how much a ticket is for Leeds v Leigh, they hand you a ticket from your allocation, and you give them 20 English pounds. When we come to Leigh, we ask for a ticket at our club shop, they tell us our allocation is £25 per ticket, and we hand (or don't) them 25 English pounds. Our allocation costs £25, yours will cost £20, it's a simple as that. Maybe if you played at a decent new-build stadium (like Warrington or St Helens),where working class fans are catered for with at least 2 standing terraces, we wouldn't be talking about this. Either that or get a reasonable pricing structure for away fans like the other Superleague clubs that have all seater stadiums.'"


So Wire and Saints have good stadiums , but Hull,Hudds,Widnes and Leigh don't ?

Anyway don't bloody come , you won't be missed , tightd Yorkshire git

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Quote: chapylad "If McGuire is fit then for me Sutcliffe drops out of the 17 and Ormandroyd or Baldwinson comes in for a bench spot.'"


There could be doubts about McGuire's fitness and if so Sutcliffe has to be on the bench.

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Quote: D4mo78 "That's the thing, he's had plenty of game time there. Why name him in the 17, give him 5 mins then drop (??) him. He should be getting game time for us.'"


A bit early to be so critical. We have only played one match and Baldwinson was rewarded for some promising form in pre-season friendlies by making the 17 last week. In a tough opener it was understandable for the coach to keep his most experienced seniors on for the most time. Both Mullaly and Baldwinson did ok in their short time on the field but not better than the first choices.

For this second match, as I suggested, if Mags is set to play it makes sense to have Sutcliffe on the bench as half back cover in case he breaks down again. This means it is more likely that Cuthbertson and Mullaly are selected ahead on the youngster at this stage of the season. Perhaps Walters is in the 19 because there is a doubt with a backrower.

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If it's reached the stage where McGuire's fitness is such that no-one knows whether or not he'll break down then it's probably time to pick an understudy and stick with him instead.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "A bit early to be so critical. We have only played one match and Baldwinson was rewarded for some promising form in pre-season friendlies by making the 17 last week. In a tough opener it was understandable for the coach to keep his most experienced seniors on for the most time. Both Mullaly and Baldwinson did ok in their short time on the field but not better than the first choices.

For this second match, as I suggested, if Mags is set to play it makes sense to have Sutcliffe on the bench as half back cover in case he breaks down again. This means it is more likely that Cuthbertson and Mullaly are selected ahead on the youngster at this stage of the season. Perhaps Walters is in the 19 because there is a doubt with a backrower.'"

Explain how Baldwinson was supposed to be "better than the 1st choices" during a 5 minute cameo?
Same with Mullally only given ltd minutes so once again more than questionable bench use by the Coach but i suppose that's all Sutcliffes fault aswell.
Also if there is any doubt over Mcguire ala last week it's pointless naming him because even if he proves his fitness at the very last minute the starting 17 can be adjusted whether he's in the 19 or not.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "A bit early to be so critical. We have only played one match and Baldwinson was rewarded for some promising form in pre-season friendlies by making the 17 last week. In a tough opener it was understandable for the coach to keep his most experienced seniors on for the most time. Both Mullaly and Baldwinson did ok in their short time on the field but not better than the first choices.

For this second match, as I suggested, if Mags is set to play it makes sense to have Sutcliffe on the bench as half back cover in case he breaks down again. This means it is more likely that Cuthbertson and Mullaly are selected ahead on the youngster at this stage of the season. Perhaps Walters is in the 19 because there is a doubt with a backrower.'"


I agree with that. It could also be that Mac sees Leigh as an opportunity to give Ormandroyd a game, given they have just come up from the level he was playing at. But at the same time doesn't want to go too inexperienced on the bench.

I think potentially we could see Ward/JJB start at 13, meaning likely one of Garbutt or Singo drops to the bench, going Mullaly, Baldwinson, Singo/Garbo and Sutty if Mags is fit doesn't leave much room to manoeuvre, bearing in mind Sutty or Keinhorst might be asked to slot somewhere else so we can spell Parcell.

Like you say, let's not be critical too early. We have plenty of guys playing rugby here and elsewhere so hopefully plenty of competition. In terms of Baldy not getting a fair shot I remember people thinking the same thing about Singo. His chance will come, and if he's good enough he'll take it.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "There could be doubts about McGuire's fitness and if so Sutcliffe has to be on the bench.'"


Injured? Surely not! Will he feature in more than a dozen games this season?
Will it be another Mad Monday nudey run for Danny boy?
Get the replacement halves in and let them develop as a pairing.

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Mcguire fit to play McDermott has said in his press conference.

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