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| Quote: SmokeyTA "exactly this, if Cuthbertson is having to take a different route because of Huby, by definition Huby is obstructing him. That's what obstruction is. Being in the way. The player ran through a gap created by his colleagues presence in the defensive line, if that isn't obstruction, what do we have an obstruction rule for? Especially considering the nonsensical decision he gave against Hardaker in the first half.
Some have mentioned Sinfield and decision making and leadership, all I can say is this, on the back of an unbelievably lopsided penalty count, against one of the top half backs in SL, against an incredible lack of ball and having to do an incredible amount of defensive work, we only conceded 16 points against one of the better teams in the league and could/should have won it.
I don't know what Sinfield would have done better against that. Im a huge fan of him and think he still has contributions to make this year, but in that 2nd half we were just constantly starved of ball by penalties and drop outs. When we had it, we made good metres and created chances. But I don't think any other team in SL would have been in the game facing what we faced in the 2nd half.
Its an odd thing to say considering we lost the 2nd half 16 points to 2 but it really was an outstanding effort.'"
The point is that the "decision making and leadership" would have seen us give away fewer penalties and have better field position and not be under the cosh at the end of every set. Yes, there have been plenty of games where Sinfield played that we've lost the penalty count, but that's the idea.
Also, I doubt he'd have taken McGuire's crazy optional kick, and it's probable he'd have worked the late drop goal better. So, all in all, despite what you've said that could have been quite a difference. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "exactly this, if Cuthbertson is having to take a different route because of Huby, by definition Huby is obstructing him. That's what obstruction is. Being in the way. The player ran through a gap created by his colleagues presence in the defensive line, if that isn't obstruction, what do we have an obstruction rule for? Especially considering the nonsensical decision he gave against Hardaker in the first half.
Some have mentioned Sinfield and decision making and leadership, all I can say is this, on the back of an unbelievably lopsided penalty count, against one of the top half backs in SL, against an incredible lack of ball and having to do an incredible amount of defensive work, we only conceded 16 points against one of the better teams in the league and could/should have won it.
I don't know what Sinfield would have done better against that. Im a huge fan of him and think he still has contributions to make this year, but in that 2nd half we were just constantly starved of ball by penalties and drop outs. When we had it, we made good metres and created chances. But I don't think any other team in SL would have been in the game facing what we faced in the 2nd half.
Its an odd thing to say considering we lost the 2nd half 16 points to 2 but it really was an outstanding effort.'"
Agree entirely. |
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| Quote: Gotcha "Just got back. Thought we we were not that good in the first half to be honest, as Huddersfield were the worst side I have seen this year. Things went our way first half, and we threw the ball about, but with no plan at all.
When things went against us second half, for the second week running we had nobody to step up and lead the side. That was a game situation we would have won any time over last 12 years with Sinfield out there. You can't just cut him off if you don't have a replacement. That doesn't mean another stand off, that means a proper leader/captain. I don't care where he plays, but he should be out there to manage players, that quite obviously don't have a brain at times. I mean, the way that bloody drop goal was handled was ridiculous.
On the game thought Delaney and JJB were fantastic. Other than that, I couldn't pick anyone. Why still persist with Burrow I just don't know.
Oh and Silverwood is useless. A very inconsistent poor Ref.'"
I stopped reading your post after i read that. If Huddersfield are the worst side you've seen this year then you must watch the game differently to other supporters and have not seen the likes of Hull, Wakey, Catalans, Wire, Widnes etc or infact don't actual understand rugby league in general. |
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| Quote: craigizzard "The point is that the "decision making and leadership" would have seen us give away fewer penalties and have better field position and not be under the cosh at the end of every set. Yes, there have been plenty of games where Sinfield played that we've lost the penalty count, but that's the idea.
Also, I doubt he'd have taken McGuire's crazy optional kick, and it's probable he'd have worked the late drop goal better. So, all in all, despite what you've said that could have been quite a difference.'"
Actually, I thought the opposite regarding the Mcguire punt kick, it's exactly something Sinfield has done before, the only difference is he executed it far better than McGuire did.
I'm not sure we'd have conceded fewer penalties either. A couple weeks ago Silverwood was very lenient with the offsides and seemed to control the PTB a lot better. We seemed to catch him on one of his nights where penalised everything. |
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| Quote: craigizzard "The point is that the "decision making and leadership" would have seen us give away fewer penalties and have better field position and not be under the cosh at the end of every set. Yes, there have been plenty of games where Sinfield played that we've lost the penalty count, but that's the idea.
Also, I doubt he'd have taken McGuire's crazy optional kick, and it's probable he'd have worked the late drop goal better. So, all in all, despite what you've said that could have been quite a difference.'"
Exactly. It's not like most of those penalties were wrong, it was our own indiscipline. Someone should have got a hold of that, and tried to stop the momentum. It's not as if we haven't faced similar scenarios many times over last twelve years, but we didn't capitulate like that. It was missing last week, and happened again this week. |
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| Quote: moggie "I stopped reading your post after i read that. If Huddersfield are the worst side you've seen this year then you must watch the game differently to other supporters and have not seen the likes of Hull, Wakey, Catalans, Wire, Widnes etc or infact don't actual understand rugby league in general.'"
Stop been a biased idiot. Huddersfield were absolute garbage that first half, a really poor side.
Your own fans were none stop moaning that time for Anderson to go, Cudroe is a waster, and where have you gone Brough. Soon changed their tune in the second half, |
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got to agree, hudds were terrible. on the back of all that they could only get a draw? ive never seen a ref be so inept. if that wasnt obstruction then i really have no idea what is. certainly not the first half leeds one!
as for the ref, he gave hudds 20m illegally leading up to their 2nd try. knock on on hudd 10m line, free play. hudds knock on in tackle 20ms down and he ignores it to give them first tackle claiming it was a free play. well i never realised on free plays the rules get ignored....
someone how we went from the most disciplined team of the season (65 pens all year) to very nearly doubling it under silverpud (ok slight exaggeration, but was it 12 in the end?!?!)
other than that i though we defended very well. it was only broughs kicking that finally unlocked out defence, but only on the back of some seriously sustained pressure.
as for the last minute burrow slip. im pretty certain it would of gone unstairs and St steve would of found an obscure rule to disallow it =/
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Oh and any truth to this biting claim? had it been Hardaker who had done the biting im sure id have seen a vine on twitter trending by now
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| Quote: southern_rhino "got to agree, hudds were terrible. on the back of all that they could only get a draw? ive never seen a ref be so inept. if that wasnt obstruction then i really have no idea what is. certainly not the first half leeds one!
as for the ref, he gave hudds 20m illegally leading up to their 2nd try. knock on on hudd 10m line, free play. hudds knock on in tackle 20ms down and he ignores it to give them first tackle claiming it was a free play. well i never realised on free plays the rules get ignored....
someone how we went from the most disciplined team of the season (65 pens all year) to very nearly doubling it under silverpud (ok slight exaggeration, but was it 12 in the end?!?!)
other than that i though we defended very well. it was only broughs kicking that finally unlocked out defence, but only on the back of some seriously sustained pressure.
as for the last minute burrow slip. im pretty certain it would of gone unstairs and St steve would of found an obscure rule to disallow it I thought people were in front of peacocks kick at first viewing
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| Quote: The Eagle "There was barely any contract, and the ball was well away. Cuthbo should have slid across to cover the gap but looks like he has a litle rest, and if anything moves into huby'"
If you substitute Danny Mags for Huby it would have been a penalty for lurking in the line every day of the week.This was no different. |
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| Quote: Gotcha "Stop been a biased idiot. Huddersfield were absolute garbage that first half, a really poor side.
Your own fans were none stop moaning that time for Anderson to go, Cudroe is a waster, and where have you gone Brough. Soon changed their tune in the second half,'"
Seems anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a biased? Only you could suggest the Giants were worse than the likes of Widnes or Wakefield!!
They showed in the second half what a talented side they can be |
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first 10 minutes we were the better side, then you owned the rest of the first half, but 2nd half we were all over you, and as i've said on our board, credit to your defence for only conceding 16 points as we threw everything at you, i can't remember you getting anywhere near our line in the 2nd half until the last 6-7 minutes.
so if we were the worst team some of you have seen, then how bad must leeds be?
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| Quote: southern_rhino "got to agree, hudds were terrible. on the back of all that they could only get a draw? ive never seen a ref be so inept. if that wasnt obstruction then i really have no idea what is. certainly not the first half leeds one!
as for the ref, he gave hudds 20m illegally leading up to their 2nd try. knock on on hudd 10m line, free play. hudds knock on in tackle 20ms down and he ignores it to give them first tackle claiming it was a free play. well i never realised on free plays the rules get ignored....
someone how we went from the most disciplined team of the season (65 pens all year) to very nearly doubling it under silverpud (ok slight exaggeration, but was it 12 in the end?!?!)
other than that i though we defended very well. it was only broughs kicking that finally unlocked out defence, but only on the back of some seriously sustained pressure.
as for the last minute burrow slip. im pretty certain it would of gone unstairs and St steve would of found an obscure rule to disallow it
You appear to have overlooked Ablett's knock on in the lead up to the first try - just for some balance also Mulhern's rip in front of his own posts!! It wasnt all one way
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I thought Mulhern was excellent: he completely owned Crabtree. Gut feeling that Singleton and Mulhern could both have a big future in this team.
Keinhorst's contribution was also encouraging.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "You appear to have overlooked Ablett's knock on in the lead up to the first try - just for some balance also Mulhern's rip in front of his own posts!! It wasnt all one way'"
And Hardaker punching a player in the face in front of the sticks. No penalty
Yet when Aiton gets pushed at Leeds a penalty is given.
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