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| Quote: G1 "Contrition from the knee jerkers?
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Not likely judging by the mouth foaming on the wire and saints boards in particular , practically organizing a lynching over there .
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| Hardaker on twitter
"Thankyou everyone for ur support, 5 games it is. You live and learn and that's life, so I'll just make sure I come out better for it."
.....now when he says he's going to "come out" is he being homophobic again?? Ban him for another 5!!!
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| Harsh ban for a comment you've heard blokes say a billion times before between them.
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| Quote: G1 "As I told everyone who wasn't willing to listen, no homophobia at all. Contrition from the knee jerkers?
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Who called Zak homophobic?
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| Quote: G1 "As I told everyone who wasn't willing to listen, no homophobia at all. Contrition from the knee jerkers?
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You won't see any of those twunts on here I'll bet.
Zak has accepted the punishment and will come out a better person for it. Onwards!
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Who called Zak homophobic?'"
You. You said he was guilty of homophobia.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Who called Zak homophobic?'"
Use your mouse and your eyes and read the threads. I'm not your interpreter.
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| Quote: Gotcha "You. You said he was guilty of homophobia.'"
i didnt, i said that he used a homophobic slur and the RFL have banned him for homophobic abuse. I never said Hardaker himself, was a homophobe.
What we saw was lots of fog-knitting from those desperate to defend him that the words he used werent homophobic which doesnt quite tally with a 5 match ban for homophobic abuse.
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| Quote: G1 "Use your mouse and your eyes and read the threads. I'm not your interpreter.'"
you presented the claim, you present your evidence.
I didnt see many, if any, call Hardaker a homophobe.
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| Quote: Fatbelly "I think Zak is a fantastic player and would love to have him at the Wire. He has apologised for his remarks which were made in the heat of the battle and I'm sure he regrets and like many of us wishes he could turn the clock back.'"
Problem for me is the validity of that apology (to Monaghan) when the independent findings state:
"The tribunal accepted that the player is not homophobic but were satisfied that the remarks were made to the match official"
So did he get any extra ban for getting a carefully crafted apology drawn up, in an effort to show contrition, that was now found to be b*ll ?
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Problem for me is the validity of that apology (to Monaghan) when the independent findings state
Except that's not what that means, is it?
Hardaker insists the comments were made at Monaghan. Neither you, nor I, nor the panel know whether that was actually the case, all we can do is form an opinion based on evidence. The only person who knows whether that is true or not is Hardaker.
Having experienced being refereed by James Child I wouldn't be at all surprised if he assumed the comments were made at him, given he seems to believe the entire world revolves around his ego.
If that's what he's put in his report, then the panel are hardly going to hang one of their own referees out to dry by telling him he's got it wrong, are they?
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Problem for me is the validity of that apology (to Monaghan) when the independent findings state
Is 5 games not enough for you or do you want blood too?
How about he gets put in the stocks for a week, so you can go down and lob cabbages at him?
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| No, but I think its worth recognising that an independent panel were satisfied that he'd made the remarks to the referee, and this wasn't reflected in the "apology" which was, perhaps, deliberately misleading.
I'd rather people were sincere and honest with their apologies.
Let's hope that Zak returns to focussing on being the very good player that he is.
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| If you're using an RFL disciplinary panel as an arbiter of fact, you're on dodgy ground.
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| 5 games is a disgrace. You can risk ending a players career and get less games.
Yet another microcosm for the soft mollycoddled society we've reared over the last generation.
I blame the rfl
Hardakers a martyr
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