I agree with you here. Kirke brings nothing one of the top youngsters couldn't. And Singleton is much better starting. Just don't think throwing in a bunch of youngsters, against a team unbeaten and top of their league, would have proved more fruitful.

So are some saying 1st team regulars out of form would still offer more than 1 or 2 more youngsters full of energy and confidence?
Also to blame Sutcliffe for 2 "obstruction" calls which were awful calls is daft but I do agree the pass was on quite a few times and he took the wrong option but lets not also forget he is still learning and was no worse than Sinfield who with ball in hand and last tackle kicking has been and was very poor.
Again the likes of Kirke & Bailey offered nothing that Mulhern ,Grange and England wouldn't have imo.
Watkins is getting starved of decent ball but also making poor errors ,Briscoe looks out of form and lacking a bit of confidence another spot that could have gone to a youngster like Handley who is on fire at the moment.
Full credit to Leigh they gave it a good dig but ran out of steam plenty of work for all involved to improve if we are to give a confident Giants team a test.

Bailey is getting worse with every performance - defensibly a liability.

I haven’t watched the game back from last night but were the Sky commentary team continually harping on about how depleted the Leeds team were like they did with Wigan?

Thought not!

Last night we were without Achurch, McGuire, Ablett, Yates, JJB, Aiton and Burrow but I bet not a whisper was said by the Sky muppets.

Cmon Obese Boy , give us some credit .

No problem my friend the Sky blokes for me keep going on about Wigans youngsters more , and I have to admit they are very talented , ive recently heard very good reports about Ellery Hanleys boy , being a very good prospect , maybe they are after him to?

Thaler was awful, really bad. The obstruction rule is a nonsense, its just awful. Why we, as a game, have chosen an interpretation of the obstruction rule which doesnt need there to actually be an obstruction is just idiotic.

We were worse. Appalling performance, if we play like that against Huddersfield they will put 40 or 50 points on us. Most SL sides would have absolutely pumped us. Our completion rates were terrible, basic simple errors, passing was appalling at times, the best use of Watkins is not throwing the ball at his feet.

We had no plan or structure, no build, tried to win it on every play. When we did manage to spread play either stopped with Sutcliffe throwing a dummy and being caught or Delany picking out a brick wall and running in to it.

The very few times we did put even a basic play on we cut through them pretty easily, but again failed to have any kind of second phase whatsoever to finish it. This is a big failing in the squad, we have only Hardaker with pace in the middle (Burrow is taken out of that part of the game playing at dummy half) and he just isnt all that great at the moment from putting himself in those positions. Watkins gets his hand free, or his nose through the line pretty much everytime he hold on to the ball, but he has no-one back on the inside.

The lack of pace (of thought or foot) in the middle of this Leeds side is a gaping deficiency. The props are about as mobile as human statues, none of the half backs can beat a man with pace or footwork, so there's zero threat. Sides can just slide out and load up defensively where the actual threats are, in the centres.

Unless Sutcliffe actually learns to pass a ball, he's not going to make a SL half back. The number of times the ball was prevented from getting to Watkins or Moon by his dummies that nobody bought was ridiculous.

At the moment, the Leeds three-quarter line must feel like an ashtray on a motorbike. There's little point having them, if the ball is constantly going to be turned back inside.

Time for McDermott to move on at the end of the season IMO. The structure has become too predictable, certain players have become too comfortable and a new voice is needed to come in and completely rebuild the spine of the side.

Thank you very much appreciated Leigh gave their all last night , but were just a little inexperienced in some departments . as for our fans , we follow most away games in numbers .

Full credit to Leigh. If they keep playing like that their next defeat will be a while coming. Great energy, but their patterns in attack were very easy on the eye too.

Leeds look a bit flat at the moment, which I'm not unduly worried by at this stage. I did ponder a few times whether our lack of penetration in the middle of the line might be alleviated by playing Moon at 6 for a few games to liven things up.

Get your head out of you @rs3 mate. You have completely and utterly misread what I put. Having chips on shoulders is no good.

I praised the Leigh team, it's hunger and enthusiasm. I simply said to say you didn't deserve to lose was a complete myth. You never looked like scoring after your second try. You need points to win.

I never said to keep Leigh in Championship dipstick. If you read it I compared your achievements with recent seasons of Fev (whom actually beat super league side), Halifax, and Sheffield, and said if they were all that good at the same time it would be a good a Championship.

You sound more like a Wakey fan than anything else, with the everyone against us attitude.

Said previously our forwards are poor and our halves are even worse.
Not sure what has happened to Briscoe and Watkins lately but neither look that good.
Both JP and Kylie should along with Sinfield have been rested. Thank god we didn't as Leigh would have beaten us.
Whilst the youngsters may have offered the enthusiasm I doubt their experience or lack of it would have seen us home.
That for me is a sad reflection on how we are playing with no structure or pace whatsoever.
Once Zac cops a ban we will be left with no innovation in that team at all.
Robbie Ward and Stevie Ward played well as did Hardaker and JP.
Would go as far as saying we are probably the 6th best team in SL at present.
Plenty of improvement needed.
For me Leigh looked the best team for an hour and once again some enthusiastic forwards stuck it to us last night and put us off our game.
Well done Leigh and looking forward to seeing you in SL next year.