You are correct there are less glamourous places to play than france but our season is on a weeks break for easter so a good opportunity to test ourselves as a team and for the parents to let their hair down

Ben’s going to Brazil to test himself as an individual on a farm that will be totally different to the English farm he’s been volunteering on. We hope he becomes the best farmer in the world and this is a good opportunity for him to achieve that status.

So has he actually got a job lined up over there? Or is he just hoping once he gets over there he will find one. Also I presume he has learnt even basic Portuguese so as to be able to communicate over there, and i hope he has his Visa all sorted out, maybe if it's a yes to all these thinks people will understand it a bit better.

So your waiting for a 'creative' job. I hope you get one. I would love a job as a porn star, being paid to service groups of ladies. In the meantime I have a job whilst it happens. As opposed to being a scrounger. How long is it since you had a proper job and how long did it last? Or is it over picky employers?

I’m not too sure if he’s learnt Portuguese but I guess he’ll pick it up when gets over they. He has work experience lined up so he’s not going into the country totally unprepared. I assume that his visa is all sorted out but stuff like that isn’t the area I’m dealing with.

Porn star. Classy. I could try (I'm not going to) and pull a few strings and arrange you your dream job. How much would you want to be paid to gangbanged by a group of obese over-40s? You’re not fussy so I’ll contact a couple of people and we’ll have a whip round for £100 for you to appear. On top of that we’ll let you have commission from how much the DVD sells. If it sells well then you've got yourself a career.


Oh and by the way my dream job is to write. I’ve volunteered to write all over and had some moderate success. Hows your on the side porn career going again that you’d so much love to do?

And I’m not waiting for a ‘creative’ job. I’ll be pursuing it like every other job seeker is pursuing a job up and down this country. But it has nothing to do with writing.

I worked abroad as it happened for a couple of weeks but it wasn’t right for me. Then I worked for free at ASDA for a couple of months.

Well, well, well.....what a load of tosh this is.

I have been struggling in the employment stakes for a while, and I have also been to Brazil, so let me have a twopenny worth.

You have people genuinely struggling for work then you have an ample of people who really do not want to work, and everyone gets banded in the same category. People who do not want to work and make every excuse should just walk off the face of earth as far as I'm concerned.

I know many people who say they are struggling to find work, but when push comes to shove, they're not too fussed. I applied for months with knockback emails after the first stage, but then sometimes I would get as far as the online telephone interviews or the face to face interviews. Sometimes the prospective employer would never ring back to even let me know how the interview went. I got the impression that alot of employers were sick of the lack of work ethic from young people. In one interview, someone said to me "You can talk the talk, but are you going to be like some young individuals we have had, and do as little as possible, and have ever excuse in the book for not turning up".
I have worked since 16 (all the way through uni), and never been on the dole, (I worked 9pm to 4am in a bar 2 nights a week, and that pretty much felt like been on the dole), as I had so much time on my hands, and I hated it, but it would seem alot of people get used to it, like Damo for example.

I went travelling, and would I have ever asked someone to help me me fund this luxury? would I chuff
You work and work until you can afford to go, and make sacrifices on the way, like not getting drunk on saturday night in lap dancing clubs etc.

When I got back from my travels, whilst Damo was whinging about the employment situation and I suspect didn't have one interview, I got knocked back from sainsburys recruitment, even though I got 100% in the test I did, and also the same for asda stacking shelves. Both jobs, alot of younger people got the jobs instead. I also then went through an agency to order pick in a wharehouse. How depressing that was. getting told by some lad who was training us that it doesn't matter now that we've failed the education system, but least we now get decent pay. The thing is, least I tried. I was trying everything. I would have settled for been a dustbin man, even when people were taking the mickey saying "you gone to uni to do this". I thought to myself, yes but is better than claiming from the British public like alot of graduates are now doing.

At this present time, I now have 2 jobs, and worked 29hours friday and saturday combined, and on saturday alone, I did 16hours. Saturday, I was awake at 6am to go to Huddersfield for 8:30shift, until 7. I then worked 10pm until 3:30am at night. As I write this, I am doing another 10hour shift today. All these hours are more or less minimum wage, but it goes on your cv, and it looks a damm sight better than not doing anything.

No doubt this post will fall conveniently on death ears to some, but if people are as desperate for work as they're making out, I can get them a job tomorrow. The truth is, people are not prepared to do certain jobs, and the dream job for them is not out there and is out of there reach, so they settle for handouts.

This emotive subject riles me.....

Note to Damo: You probably should have learned by now that this is all that was going to happen when you started this thread.

Well done rich. Like you say, at least you tried.

This is absolute double standards.

Whilst you might not had asked for money for the luxury of traveling abroad, you was more than happy for me to lend (yes lend) you £20 on the spot for the luxury to watch Wigan game when you couldn’t get money out of the cash machine. Have I seen a penny of that back yet? Nope. Have I badgered you for that money back? Nope – In fact keep the money because I wrote the debt off ages ago. And no I’m not going to bring this subject up every time you want to get a across a point.

Just be careful who you’re in debt to next time because it could be to some really nasty individual and with your gambling habit you might just get yourself in that unfortunate situation one day.

Finally please do not inherit the main flaw of the previous generation which is bias. By all means air your concerns about unemployment (I’ve aired the same opinions on these boards in the past and how convenient that it’s not moaning now) but don’t get into the popular mantra of bashing me. It’s not going to work and you’re just going to look like a bigger fool than you already are.

Tad and others will be lapping all this up. Is this what we’ve become – entertainment on a message board? This is two friend’s nit picking at each other’s flaws just to suit their viewpoint of things. If you fail to see that then I’m sorry I can’t help you!

Now I must go get a bath. I’ve got an important meeting to attend this afternoon.

Damo. Man up.

I can't even be bothered counting the number of words it took me to say what you have accomplished in 3.

Well played sir.

I've heard a lot of reasons from people over the couple of years when they've been turned down for a job. Everything from 'They won't give me a chance because of my age' to 'I must be too qualified for them and that lowly job'.
I can't really recall ever hearing somebody say 'maybe they just hired someone who was simply better than me'.
Sometimes the job market and employers need to stop being used as excuses and look at the individual.