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| Chase epitomises the saying "in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king".
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| I do hope Mr Chase prooves me wrong. Time will tell if he can put his heart and soul into tomorrows game against his own country. A big call if you ask me.
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| Quote: Rhino gaz "One thing is for sure,he was crap on saturday and he shouldn't play for England again.'"
If that was the criteria England/GB wouldn't have an eligible player.
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| How come chase sings god save our gracious queen. Has he no loyalty to his own nationality. Keep your gob shut Rangi and dont forget your roots otherwise you will end up with an identity problem, what and who are you supposed to be.
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| Quote: ISPY "How come chase sings god save our gracious queen. Has he no loyalty to his own nationality. Keep your gob shut Rangi and dont forget your roots otherwise you will end up with an identity problem, what and who are you supposed to be.'"
But he doesn't have an identity problem. He has said quite openly that he wants England as his home, so why shouldn't he sing the national anthem? Tony Smith sang the national anthem when he coached England. He has English citizenship.
Chase might have performed better had he played in position, at 6, and had there been a proper scrum half to partner him. Playing players out of position at international level is something England repeatedly do and never learn that it does not work.
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| He does mate he does the hakka much better
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| His eyes and tounge pop out naturally prior to kick off with agression connected with the warrior like stance and the slapping of the thighs he becomes a KIWI ready for war instead of a dummy controlled by Ray Charles the great ventuilloquest with lips just moving to try and please the audience.
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| Quote: ISPY "His eyes and tounge pop out naturally prior to kick off with agression connected with the warrior like stance and the slapping of the thighs he becomes a KIWI ready for war instead of a dummy controlled by Ray Charles the great ventuilloquest with lips just moving to try and please the audience.'"
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| You are right Allen and Charles both great entertainers its a shame we are not being entertained in the half back combination at international level. Yet we do at the domestic level.
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| Chase played like Ray Charles last night.
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| Quote: Old Feller "Chase played like Ray Charles last night.'"
The guy is pretty wise ....he knows his level. Cas are welcome to him: hugely disappointing and flattered to deceive earlier in the season.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Chase might have performed better had he played in position, at 6, and had there been a proper scrum half to partner him. Playing players out of position at international level is something England repeatedly do and never learn that it does not work.'"
I never tire of this argument.
Rangi Chase wasn't being asked to do any different a job for England than he is every week for Castleford - get his hands on the ball and create chances for himself and those around him. The number on his back and where he was named on the team sheet is completely irrelevant as an argument for defending his performances.
McNamara even picked a half-back partner similar in style to the one he has for his club, one who takes the side around the field and allows him to pop in and out of the game as he pleases.
If he had been named at 6 with Danny Brough alongside him at 7, his role and contribution would not have changed one iota IMO.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "I never tire of this argument.
Rangi Chase wasn't being asked to do any different a job for England than he is every week for Castleford - get his hands on the ball and create chances for himself and those around him. The number on his back and where he was named on the team sheet is completely irrelevant as an argument for defending his performances.
McNamara even picked a half-back partner similar in style to the one he has for his club, one who takes the side around the field and allows him to pop in and out of the game as he pleases.
If he had been named at 6 with Danny Brough alongside him at 7, his role and contribution would not have changed one iota IMO.'"
Danny Brough should be first choice SH....although i would also argue the Gaskell and Lomax partnership be given chance to flourish.
I'm also a fan of Luke Robinson as back up hooker.
Burrow doesn't do too bad off the bench either
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| Any of the halfbacks mentioned would have struggled to kick well under the pressure that was put upon them by the Aussies on Saturday.
We need a pack going forward to create the time and space for the halfbacks. Something that rarely happened on Saturday.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Any of the halfbacks mentioned would have struggled to kick well under the pressure that was put upon them by the Aussies on Saturday.
We need a pack going forward to create the time and space for the halfbacks. Something that rarely happened on Saturday.'"
Spot on. We always like to think our pack is better or at least as good, but we were beaten in the forwards and many of the forwards have been disappointing in the series as a whole. Players like Peacock, Heighington, Ellis for instance.
I don't whether it's because they play the game so well and so are fresher or are simply fitter than us but the Aussie forwards seem to do more work than ours, especially in their off the ball work. Every time Lockyer or Thurston runs across the line there are plenty of options with props and back rowers putting that extra effort in to put themselves forward as a support runner. Or they collectively put the effort in to close down the kicker, something which we generally don't do very well.
Far too often our forwards are taking a breather.
We're also far too soft, there aren't enough in the England squad willing to properly mix it with the Aussies. Every time the game gets close against the Aussies they get more aggressive and we don't. Out of the current squad there's probably only Westwood and Chase who's up for a scrap.
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