Defensive better than ablett? The problem with Leeds is soft points against. Senior whilst not only to blame has looked at sea too often.

i agree. where have i said otherwise??????????

Sorry miss read your post

Whilst not denying the importance of a solid defence, surely we need at least 1 of our centres to have an ounce of attacking flair!

I think Delaney and ablett both have attack ability but I know what you mean. Surley Watkins and smith have attacking flair?(though some seem to have a downer on smith saying he has lost his pace?)

You don't need to have pace to be a good centre - Mal Meninga was hardly Usain Bolt, neither was Matt Gidley or Brad Godden. Speed of thought in that position often outwits speed of movement.

I think most of the soft tries we've conceded have been down the middle of the pitch, due to poor goal line defense and poor line speed. I'm not saying hasn't been poor defensivly but most of our poor defense has been a result of poor structure and poor attitude rather than individual errors.

No idea what you mean

Or fitness, in the case of a certain Tonie Carroll.

Or raw ability if you are called Michael Shenton, just duck under all the hype.

Agree not everyone has to be 18. Stone of muscle and lightning fast.

Yeah like the Ancient Mariner!

Senior extended his contract as part of the 'magnificent seven' and unlike two of those pulled on the boots for Leeds this season.

I can only hope Watkins (when fit) defends better at left centre than he does on the right. Teams will have a field day running at him. He appears unable to trust his inside defender and is forever edging in (or ball watching) instead of drifting out. Watkins could eventually make a good centre but at the moment he makes a much better winger.



I've known it all season but there again I havn't joined in the clamour to see him put out to stud. If Leeds had a better option in the position why havn't we seen it?

i agree about watkins. for me he could end up a real class winger. i'm still not sure he will make a centre. great with ball in hand but poor in defence,especially reading plays.

Re: Watkins. If you have talent and speed as an outside back I think it's much easier to make an impression much more quickly as a winger. I think playing centre will take a bit of time to adapt to the role. Sadly for Watkins, for several reasons, he's never been able to put together a run in the position.

I am confident he will be a top class centre, even though I recognise some of the failings TVOC has pointed out. He has all the raw talent and seems to have a good attitude.

Only time will tell but at the minute watkins makes a good winger given time I think he could make a top class centre