Which is what I said anyway isn't it?

I am not sure I can accept your assertion that this (the first missile) was indeed a FACT how could you know if you where watching the match rather than the pillocks???

also if the Leeds fan responsible for the missile was ejected surely then he should have been arrested and then details passed to both clubs so a ban could be put in place.

The responsibility for all fans at that game was the stadium managements and IMHO they have clearly not fulfilled their duty of care to the paying public.

BOYCOTT THE PLACE TILL THEY DO

Because all the problems will be solved on this thread! Why dont you all take your time out to write to the club or to the council, people more important...Like you say ' do something about it'!

i have a better idea. why don't the hull club sort it out once and for all

And you were the one making the accusations about missing the point

The original poster wrote to both clubs, and credit to him for that. He also provides a link which clearly states that the RFL are working with both clubs to investigate and have received a report from the ground safety officer.

I don't really think an e-mail/letter from me, to tell them that I didn't see anything, was sat at the other end of the stand minding my own business, but really hope they sort it out, will add much weight to the investigation at this stage if I'm honest

The missle that was thrown at Luaki wasn't a bottle, but rather about a half full plastic beer glass.

How do I know this ?

Well, the individual in question wasn't a million miles away from where the Admiral was sat and whilst I didn't see the person concerned actually throw it (I saw it as it came from somewhere close over my right shoulder shortly after launch) and on to the field of play.

However, there were people who were sat with me who DID see the person that throw it and what HE was wearing (interestingly, they weren't wearing Leeds colours, but by that I am not suggesting they weren't a Leeds fan). He was nothing to do with us / our party and members of my party that were sat near them had no interaction with them during the course of the game.

In terms of where it was in the ground, it was nowhere near Chav Corner (quite the opposite, in fact) and was a reasonable distance back from the perimiter fence.

More than that, I can't tell you, because funnily enough I was watching what was going on down on the pitch at the time the item was thrown. It's only after chatting to people within my group this week and on the news of a subsequent RFL investigation, that I've found out that the 'receptical chucker' was closer to me than I thought.

If it was seen by the stewards / security, then they certainly didn't do anything about it whilst the match was going on, because the individual concerned went unchallenged for the remainder of the game.

Perhaps in terms of improvement to stewarding, Hull might want consider deploying stewards around the perimiter of the end and LOOKING BACK IN TO THE STANDS, rather than as it seems at most grounds that the orange coat is merely an excuse to watch the game and get paid for it at the same time (as seems a common tradition elsewhere on Humberside). Then, should anyone decide to do something stuipd like throw something on to the pitch, the stewards watching the crowd can at least pin-point the aproximate area of where the missle was launched from to allow the CCTV to zoom in and the individual concerned is swiftly ejected / arrested.

Given the problems at the game and given the history between the two teams, one of the probable outcomes will be the banning of beer in the seats at Hull the next time we're there and yet another ground will be lost to the pleasureable experience of watching a game with a pint because of the inability of someone to demonstrate self-control.

In terms of hassle after the game, I walked back in to the centre of Hull after the game surrounded by FC fans. This was part of my plan to get home and given the nature of the locals, I take sensible precautions (like ensuring my 'exclusive' Leeds shirt is kept well out of sight outside the stadium). I saw no fighting, hassle or scuffles to report.

I know a few Wakey fans who refuse to go to the KC due to the 'chav corner' idiots abusing them throughout the game.

Why pay a club money to be abused is the general concensus.

This has been a problem for a fair few years now and and I am surprised the Hull club haven't done
anything about it yet.

Good post. With regard to the stewards either failing to see the culprit or to take action, I can remember a similar occurrence in the north stand at HQ some years ago. On this occasion numerous people standing nearby pointed out the perpetrator to two coppers who were idling their way around the pitch perimeter. He was promptly ejected (and at the same time made aware that most right-thinking people thought his actions were those of a grade A ). Surely as fans we should work with the stewards if we want to stamp out this type of behaviour?

Think that the trouble has been blown up out of proportion, a few mindless idiots wrecking which should be a great fixture between two rival clubs, ive been following fc for years and seen it come from both sides both at the kc and at headingley, it hasnt stopped me from following my team.

what i thought was quite ironic though was that one minute the leeds fans were singing "youre the scum of rugby league" and then straight into a chorus of " you fat ba$tard" aimed at one of our players

I think people are exaggerating all this a little bit.

A bit of f'in and blindin' and a bottle thrown is hardly 80s football hooliganism. It's just two passionate sets of fans getting abit heated in my eyes and why somebody would cry over something so insignificant is beyond me.

I'd agree there's no chance of a collective boycott but I can assure you there are quite a few who avoid the place (largely based on things that have happened in the past I might add). The sad fact is that any disorder, however minor, will detract further from your club's reputation. Which is a terrible pity because there's been a massive improvement in recent years.

I have only ever moved once during a game because of foul and abusive language, and that was at a Hull vs Cas match. I was stood with the Hull fans and the abuse was not directed at me (but at the Cas fans the Cas players and the ref), but I simply couldn't listen to it. It was horrendous and relentless from a group of 20-30 "fans". It was NOT what most people go to games to listen to.

Frankly, I don't think anyone (especially with children) should have to suffer relentless personal abuse under any circumstances.

Hull need to deal with this specific problem. Banning 10-20 idiots (and the threat of banning for others) may improve attendences significantly.

How do you know what had happened though? Being subject to or even hearing prolonged abuse is pretty upsetting.

I cried for a long time when I was caught up in the hideousness at the football

It is this systemic blind indifference to the obvious that has lead me to believe that a BOYCOTT of that particular stadium is the only course of action that will have some effect.

The only conclusion I can come to from your post and others of a similar apologistic nature on here is that we must wait until someone is seriously injured or we see another "goal post" episode beofre any action is taken.