Yes with the likes of Percival and Makinson who are great at that. You can't copy the method with players who don't hit the line like they do.

For what it's worth, Hall will be more effectively than Fus with these carries next season I think, and Handley is OK sometimes. Our centres are rubbish at it and Miller is more of a stepper. Added to the fact we have relatively light back rowers and we get exactly what we see - a consistent failure to establish any momentum up field and a poor platform for the halves to play off.

The 2 wingers at Wigan and Catalan don`t do bad either at bringing the ball out of their own half.
With Fusi`s size you would think he would do the same.
Too powder puff for me.

Handley is very good at bringing the ball out from our line. He regularly makes decent post contact metres and if given the space can use his speed to make ground. Fusi is poor, especially for his size. He never breaks a tackle and doesn't have the pace to go around anyone. Its a shame Lumb got injured, he may have been an improvement.

Alfie edgel is actually pretty good at this especially for his size, runs fearlessly

Still think we looked pretty good in patches going forward, all is not lost but… I hope between Blease and BA they can find some solutions to the squad.

I think Hall will help out with that. Strong runner and should play more often too.

The last bit I agree with the rest is poppycock.

We are not St's of years gone by are we, probably the worst comparison of two rugby league teams.

We’re honestly not ‘that’ far off IMO.

I think BA can get a tune out of them, theres not been an overseas coach with his pedigree in SL for a while.

For Goodness sake Chris , we are miles off , is your glass always full

I don’t even have a glass…

The hitups by the backs are largely driven by where and when we start sets. When we're starting sets right back on our own line, the kicker has often had ages to make a long kick, and the defence has time to run as a line (their forwards also haven't had to struggle as much as they should, making easy yards up the middle). We then generally have to make two or three hard runs from outside backs before the forwards even get into position to get the ball. Contrast to when a team is pinned back and has to kick from deep. You then get the ball 30 yards out, every run is easier and forwards can get involved earlier.

So much keeps coming back to field position and the defence giving away far too many easy yards.

Pretty much on point. Unless we suddenly get a new pack or players become different beasts overnight we are a significant distance away from the top teams. The stats are the same every week rarely do any of our forwards except Oledski who's trying too hard to compensate for others deliver 100m plus in a game. Some struggling to hit 50m every week. The only one who consistently makes big metres in the middle of the field is Ash Handley and thats like waiting a ferrari in a stock car race!

Using the backs more in yardage is just a way of distributing the workload and energy drain. However if they are ineffective we are kicking from inside our own half under pressure and we’re the gimp.

BA needs to assess where he thinks our existing strengths and weaknesses are and work to them. I think we need a different tactic to make yardage.