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| Quote: rhinoms "Bright enough not to go to a RL game to cause trouble and act like a tw#* year after year and then have even more brainless t#*ts try and defend it.
Not one person has defended what happened, in fact quite the opposite has happened. Both sets of fans have called for name and shame and life time bans, in fact if you had read about it you would know it was a Hull fan who grabbed hold of the idiot for the stewards to deal with and another Hull fan who has given this idiots details to both Clubs and the press.
What I will defend is what the club are doing to try and sort out the small element that we have. YOu have obviously ignored my previous post regarding the way in which the club have gone about making the KC a better place. I have regular meetings with the Stadium Manager and know for a fact that what has been implemented ie no alcohol in seats, reserved seating etc is working very well.
So instead of being a keyboard warrior why don't you try and come up with ideas about how incidents like this can be tackled?
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| You could have banned drink and shut that corner years ago.its that simple.
The away scum element is far more difficult
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| Quote: tad rhino "You could have banned drink and shut that corner years ago.its that simple.
The away scum element is far more difficult'"
You have never been allowed to take drink to your seat at the KC Stadium for both rugby and football until last season and the SMC decided to trial it for rugby for a season to bring us in line with every other stadium. I have talked with the Stadium Manager and he says the number of "incidents" last year nearly tripled, so for the last season (2011) they banned it again. So for 8 years out of the 9 years we have been at the KC, alcohol in seats wasn't a factor.
As for chav corner, I agree its been a long time coming but the Club finally saw sense to take action.
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "Where in my post did I say that Leeds fans were not causing trouble? I will make it simple for you.
1). Hull started it by throwing missiles.
2). Your decent fans had enough of the scum and tried to sort it out.
Easier for you? ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote: Hull White Star "Not one person has defended what happened, in fact quite the opposite has happened. Both sets of fans have called for name and shame and life time bans, in fact if you had read about it you would know it was a Hull fan who grabbed hold of the idiot for the stewards to deal with and another Hull fan who has given this idiots details to both Clubs and the press.
What I will defend is what the club are doing to try and sort out the small element that we have. YOu have obviously ignored my previous post regarding the way in which the club have gone about making the KC a better place. I have regular meetings with the Stadium Manager and know for a fact that what has been implemented ie no alcohol in seats, reserved seating etc is working very well.
So instead of being a keyboard warrior why don't you try and come up with ideas about how incidents like this can be tackled?'"
If you're too blind to see the "excuses" all over this thread then i suggest you get yer specs changed flower.
As for been a "Keyboard Warrior" who's away support have brought grief with them to Headingley for years and still it goes on?
How about you stop the pi$$ heads getting on your coaches and enforce a strict no drinking rule to and from the games?
How about at the 1st sign of grief you sort the scum bags out?
As for the KC well done it's only taken X amount of years to sort the bleedin obvious problems out but what has that got to do with the away trouble?
Oh and just so we are very clear I are'nt the scum causing trouble with a Hull shirt on nor does it take place in the vicinty of where i stand the problem is all yours and your clubs as far as the Hull trouble stands.
Of course we should stop scoring tries against that pile 'o' dung team of yours and stop singing because "what else do we expect".
Also a chav bint taunting the away end is just enough to insight the grief because any restraint is then nullified and it's fair game to kick off isn't it?
Oh and Bal it's not a witch hunt just the annual thread about trouble when Hull are at "insert away SL ground".
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "Again. Like the last time we played you, and the time before, and the time before, etc. See the pattern?
Yes, I remember you been on your little high horse then as well, ironically even after it was proven that Leeds fans had been involved in missle throwning as well as Hull fans. The higher you get, the further you fall - or are you suggesting that no 20 year old somethings get drunk and make an idiot of themselves from Leeds?
A Criminology expert would find your suggestion that there is a pattern laughable. Hull fans equally stopped the trouble, apparently in greater numbers. Your statement is like the idiots that suggested that the riots in the UK were a fault of the young, or that cultural problems with "young black men" were the cause, at the same time as young black men were out on the street with brushes cleaning up and by a vast vast majority hard working people - your brush is way to wide, simplistic and sullied by a wish for a good which hunt, or worst genuine prejudice. There are problems with elements of most groups, my example of the riots is just an example of that net been cast way to wide, i.e. there is a cultural problem with an element of the group, not the whole group. There are kids that drink too much in among the Hull fans, its not the fault of the Hull fans when they act like idiots - its our reaction to those incidents, and in the past we have been one of the most pro-active groups of supporters going, including fan charters, issuing life bans, naming and shaming (look at the Hull forum in reaction to this incident) and in this most recent incident actively stopping the trouble.
One idiot getting drunk is not an indication of cultural problems within the Hull supporters, nor the Hull supporters fault as you suggested in orginally quoted post. Well, no more than say it was your fault as somebody from Leeds that there was a fight in Leeds City last Saturday night. You'll probably point to past incidents, but you can only draw a pattern if the incidents involved the same people, or at least the same group of people - and that does not exist here, probably largely because of previous efforts. It can only be suggested that it is a problem with Hull fans per-se if encouraged by Hull fans, but they were actually stopped by Hull fans - contridicting the whole premise. So we are back to what it actually was, an idiot, who happened to be from Hull, who had too much to drink and made a prat of himself. Unfortunetly, something that happens a lot, everywhere. Maybe its "humans fault"?
The RFL will likely fine Hull FC for the trouble at Leeds, a daft situation meant to appease people like yourself with a sense of misplaced justice. Aim for those actually responsible.
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| Quote: rhinoms "If you're too blind to see the "excuses" all over this thread then i suggest you get yer specs changed flower.
As for been a "Keyboard Warrior" who's away support have brought grief with them to Headingley for years and still it goes on?
How about you stop the pi$$ heads getting on your coaches and enforce a strict no drinking rule to and from the games?
How about at the 1st sign of grief you sort the scum bags out?
As for the KC well done it's only taken X amount of years to sort the bleedin obvious problems out but what has that got to do with the away trouble?
Oh and just so we are very clear I are'nt the scum causing trouble with a Hull shirt on nor does it take place in the vicinty of where i stand the problem is all yours and your clubs as far as the Hull trouble stands.
Of course we should stop scoring tries against that pile 'o' dung team of yours and stop singing because "what else do we expect".
Also a chav bint taunting the away end is just enough to insight the grief because any restraint is then nullified and it's fair game to kick off isn't it?
Oh and Bal it's not a witch hunt just the annual thread about trouble when Hull are at "insert away SL ground".'"
Deary me. Don't buy a copy of the Daily Mail tomorrow - you'll possibly explode with outrage.
Quote: rhinoms "How about you stop the pi$$ heads getting on your coaches and enforce a strict no drinking rule to and from the games?'"
Do we know that all the trouble makers came on coach? I'll take your suggestion further. All people everywhere who has had a drink should be stopped from travelling either by plane, train, coach, private car - perhaps even by bike. All public houses between Hull and Leeds should be closed and a general wide alert should be issued to all pubs, bars and off liciences throughout the land, you know, just in case. Oh crap, we should close all supermarkets and any were people can buy a can of beer, so garages and corner shops, they'll have to go as well.
Quote: rhinoms "How about at the 1st sign of grief you sort the scum bags out?'"
You mean like Hull fans stopping an incident? rlI'll pass your suggestion onrl
Quote: rhinoms "Oh and Bal it's not a witch hunt just the annual thread about trouble when Hull are at "insert away SL ground".'"
See my post above. The very reason these problems occur is because it can't be attributed to "Hull fans" and therefore it is a exactly that, a which hunt based on prejudice - which has resulted in the ridiculous situation of you getting upset and irriate at Hull supporters on a forum who have had nothing to do with the trouble, nor are defending it.
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| Quote: ryano "Evidence? No?
Why do Bradford prefer to lose a lucrative income stream when you're in town that they don't appear to with any other club? Perhaps the powers that be should take a closer look at drinking on coaches..'"
Stopping drinking on coaches is a reasonable idea - but Hull FC only run a small number of the official coaches. People also travel by train and car. You can't stop people drinking on there. Like my post to the irriate posters above, the question is, where do you stop?
Also, I'll never be a fan of restricting the rights of people for the criminal acts of a minority. Why should people who don't cause any trouble be stopped from having a cold beer on a match day? Do we close down nightclubs on a Friday and Saturday night because a a handful of morons can't handle their drink? Although, I do support measures that makes binge drinking more difficult.
Perhaps, like with a bar owner, drunks shouldn't be let into the ground in the first place? That is a far more better firewall in my opinion, although still not perfect.
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Quote: pmarrow "You really believe Opposition players swearing at supporters knowing they have also had a drink won't spark an incident. Get in the real world will you, your fans are just as scummy as some of ours.
'" I think anybody who wants to blame somebody swearing at them for 'sparking an incident' is a moron and really doesnt need people defending them, they need someone to explain what it is to be a responsible human adult. BTW they arent my fans. Im confident none of them where there supporting me. I'm not responsible for their actions.
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| Whether ALL the trouble makers come on a coach is irrellevant it will send a further message and encourage more of you "outraged true FC fans" to stop the sh#*-heads because lets face it it's gone on long enough and your lot have turned a "blind eye" more often than not.
Oh and just so we are clear i aren't upset i just call it how i see it and again like the other poster if you can't see the posts trying to justify or defend it happening then again get some new specs.
As for a Witch hunt how long have you lot blamed Hull City fans for the trouble that's followed your team around?
The fact remains that once again Fans under the "Hull FC" banner have been involved in crowd trouble during an away SL fixture and no amount of "what you've done at the KC" will change that will it?
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