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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Smith - Our least value for money player.

Many on here know my opinion of him so it would be rude for me to not contribute to a thread all about him! I was glad to see the back of him (ask anybody that stands anywhere near me), and I was gutted when he came back. He had a cracker on his return, and I was all ready to admit that the Union mistake had taught him a lesson and he was a new man, but no. He didn't let me down.

The main problem with Smith is that he's in it for the wrong reasons. Rugby (League especially) is a lifestyle choice. The fame/glory/admiration that comes with it is very much a sideline and not a given. I've always had Smith down as in it for the fame/glory/admiration and not for playing the Rugby. He strikes me as one of these lazy kids at school that was always popular because they were good at sport. He got the opportunity to play pro-RL and though... "A professional Rugby player? Yeah, chicks will dig me, I'll get to go on Question of Sport, and maybe date a pop star, and be a celebrity. I'll go for that". You all know the sort. Which is why (IMO) he has a habit of scoring in big games. Big games .'"


I was nodding in agreement until I read that.

Are you seriously suggesting that Smith only upped his performance for big games so that he could be more of a celebrity?

And if only ever turned up for big games, how the heck did he ever get picked to start in said big games?

I agree that he has lost his way a bit over the past 18 months but I wouldn't consign him to the reject bin just yet.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "IIRC at the time he announced he was leaving he was still in a relationship with Verity Rushworth, who had left Emmerdale and moved to London to pursue a stage career.

Setting aside your obvious personal agenda for one second (has he shagged your bird or something, you do seem very intent on making it personal rather than professional?), is it not just possible that his move to Union was at least partly motivated by wanting to be closer to his then girlfriend?'"


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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "

Why not start Smith at Wembley then? He's sure to play a blinder if he knows he'll make the third from the back page of the Sunday Mirror.

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[quote="Harrigan":2spn4cnp]Is there an off switch on Remarkable_Rhino?[/quote:2spn4cnp] [quote="Swarcliffe Rhino":2spn4cnp]No.[/quote:2spn4cnp] [quote="G1":2spn4cnp]Remarkable Rhino posts something that makes sense shocker![/quote:2spn4cnp]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53248.gif



Quote: Andy Gilder "Riiiight - so when he was a 17 year old kid coming through the Academy at Leeds, his sole motivation for doing well was so he could shack up with an actress and become a celebrity?

Despite this obvious lack of any work ethic you keep referring to, successive coaches at one of the most successful clubs in the competition continued to pick him in a number of different positions, resulting in him earning international honours.

One of the highest profile clubs in English rugby union then saw enough of him to offer him a long term contract. When that didn't work out, his former rugby league club was quick to step into the breach and bring him back.

No, clearly the opinions of all these people who have worked with him on a daily basis are completely erroneous and only you know the real Lee Smith.
He's good. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying that his motivation for being good isn't the same as that of say, Kevin Sinfield.

People are motivated for different reasons, but that doesn't make them not motivated. Coach's have clearly been able to see that he was motivated and talented and thus have rewarded said motivation and talent with opportunity.

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "icon_lol.gif All you've done there is reinforce my point.

What you're saying is that Lee Smith's actress Girlfriend got a gig in London, and he went down too so they could become the next Gavin & Charlotte.

I think you need to get your facts right, the actress Girlfriend I assume you are talking about, he split up with long before he made the move to Wasps.

I do however agree that is standard of play is well below what he is capable of producing, it is obvious is confidence is shot.

As someone who as had personal dealings with Smithy, let me tell you he is a down to earth lad.

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Well done Fieldhead for bringing this thread back from incorrect assumptions, and back on track

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "

Aaaaahhh I see. So when Heather Small moved to London, and Edwards went to London, it wasn't related to his relationship, it was because he wanted to be a big time celebrity..

And when Andy Farrell moved his family down to London to be near his son it was because...

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Quote: loinertillidie "Aaaaahhh I see. So when Heather Small moved to London, and Edwards went to London, it wasn't related to his relationship, it was because he wanted to be a big time celebrity..

And when Andy Farrell moved his family down to London to be near his son it was because...'"


icon_rolleyes.gif No, just in Smithy case.

HTH.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



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Sometimes flower you do yourself no favours at all. Just because thoughts enter your head you don't have to make the public.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: thebloodbath "Smiths form overall has left him wide open for critics to take a swipe at him since his return from union. He hasn't produced the goods, I think that is fair to say. I'd also question his level of fitness as well, and he's been back well over a year. So I thought at the start of this season we would have seen a stream-lined, cutting edge, Lee Smith. That didn't happen.

But what makes it worse for Smith is the better, younger others, have evolved and made him look dated.

Watkins and BJB (Hardaker to a lesser extent) look lean, strong, quick, skillful, playing well and catching the eye (they are a look to the future which Leeds need more than ever). Whereas Smith looks no-where near any of those adjectives.'"

Nail, head etc.

Though he is a very, very hand reserve for positions 1 to 5.

Unless he improves the areas you mentioned in your first paragraph I don't see him being first choice 1 to 5 for some time, barring injuries.

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Quote: G1 "Sometimes flower you do yourself no favours at all. Just because thoughts enter your head you don't have to make the public.'"


Just clarify something for me petal, what favours is it that am I supposed to be doing myself?

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Well, you could start with a cucumber and a jar of KY Jelly, but if you need more instructions it had better be via PM.

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Quote: G1 "Well, you could start with a cucumber and a jar of KY Jelly, but if you need more instructions it had better be via PM.'"


I might just have to PM you. I'd love to know how an expert does it. icon_wink.gif

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I might just have to PM you. I'd love to know how an expert does it. Without the KY jelly. I like the friction. But you have to work up to that.

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