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Quote: GASKY "I will comment, both foul play; but I'm not trying to justify foul play, you are.'"


You are posting with one eye closed - McGuire's kick out is normal in the game - it happens in every game hardly foul play especially when compared to Dudson, McIlorum and Crosby. Perhaps your view of could play only extends to one individual?

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Quote: tenerifeRhino "They played exactly the same two weeks ago against us yet we managed to still outplay them, although they upped the thuggery yesterday to grab the win

constant Holding down at the PTB (which again wasn't penalised until 30 mins had gone)

Third man always smashing in to torso of the ball handler

Holding down with the forearm pressed into ball handlers face on multiple occasion.( only penalised once)

and just 80 mins on niggling gamesmanship from them and expected no less from them yesterday.

Its obviously premeditated tactics, which I wouldn't be proud of if I was a wigan fan'"



Interesting how you only notice 'offences' from the opposition, isn't it? (you do realise the second you posted isn't even an offence, don't you?) Didn't you not notice When Bailey lead with his elbow or McGuire kicked out at the PTB or that it was the Leeds players who were 'running in', even for a straight forward offence like the JP high shot for example? It wasn't even a particularly notable penalty...just the sort of thing that happens EVERY game.

You do realise that the tempo of the ruck is dictated by the referee and not yourself, don't you? Just because you don't like it when your team's ruck is slowed down doesn't make it an offense. I could understand it if Leeds were getting consistently penalised for holding down when Wigan weren't but that simply wasn't the case. Both teams got penalised when they overstepped the mark.

You need to take a leaf out of your coach's book (or posters like El Diablo for that matter) and accept that you were out thought, out played and out enthused yesterday. Not by much, but enough to get the win. To moan about the referee makes you look like a poor loser; unless that's what you are, of course, in which case...carry on!

Oh! And for the record, we're VERY proud Wigan fans today. Not because of the win, which in the scheme of things is no more or less important than the one 2 weeks ago, but by the fact that with over a dozen players missing including half our first choice 17 we were able to put in such a strong and committed performance.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "You are posting with one eye closed - McGuire's kick out is normal in the game - it happens in every game hardly foul play especially when compared to Dudson, McIlorum and Crosby. Perhaps your view of could play only extends to one individual?'"

There's only you trying to excuse foul play because it was one of your players, and you're accusing others of being one eyed! icon_lol.gif

If McIlorum had kicked a Leeds player you'd be petitioning parliament to bring back the death penalty.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "You are posting with one eye closed - McGuire's kick out is normal in the game - it happens in every game hardly foul play especially when compared to Dudson, McIlorum and Crosby. Perhaps your view of could play only extends to one individual?'"


I believe there is a difference between trying to scramble up to play the ball quick and kicking an opposing player. In my opinion there was intent on McGuires part to kick Williams, clearly you disagree which you have the right to.
As I said in my previous post, there WAS foul play by some of the Wigan players, which I'm not defending.

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He didn't kick at the player though did he? The player had hold of his feet in the air, and he kicked out of the hold. Yes he may have caught the player, but that was a consequence of the holding, rather than the intention of McGuire.

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Quote: Gotcha "He didn't kick at the player though did he? The player had hold of his feet in the air, and he kicked out of the hold. Yes he may have caught the player, but that was a consequence of the holding, rather than the intention of McGuire.'"

Yes, in the same way that Micky Mac's high tackle was a consequence of Peacock head butting his arm icon_wink.gif

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Quote: GASKY "I believe there is a difference between trying to scramble up to play the ball quick and kicking an opposing player. In my opinion there was intent on McGuires part to kick Williams, clearly you disagree which you have the right to.
As I said in my previous post, there WAS foul play by some of the Wigan players, which I'm not defending.'"


But you called McGuire a house based on his kick out - I am saying what he did was not as bad as what McIlorum did and certainly nowhere near as dangerous as Crosby's attempt at Hall. Yet both McIlorum and Crosby escape your tedious name calling?

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "There's only you trying to excuse foul play because it was one of your players, and you're accusing others of being one eyed!
Not at all - as I said I have not called any Wigan player a house when some of the foul play from the Wigan players was far worse than anything McGuire did.

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Wigan fans still waffling on about Mcguire kicking out, something that Sam Tomkins did 5-6 times a game while wearing a Wigan shirt and something that happens at every club, in every game, every week, every year as some kind of justification for their ****bag coach's tactics last night icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Probably the same fans who wanted Danny Mcguire's head on a plate not so long ago for pulling a player's shirt.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "But you called McGuire a house based on his kick out - I am saying what he did was not as bad as what McIlorum did and certainly nowhere near as dangerous as Crosby's attempt at Hall. Yet both McIlorum and Crosby escape your tedious name calling?'"


Please quote me on calling McGuire a house, my first post was just pointing out that you were excusing Mcguire of any wrong doing. At no point was I "name calling".

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Yes, in the same way that Micky Mac's high tackle was a consequence of Peacock head butting his arm

I know you put a wink, but that sounds dafter than the opening post of this thread.

It was as I put, and you know that really.

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Quote: loiner81 "Wigan fans still waffling on about Mcguire kicking out, something that Sam Tomkins did 5-6 times a game while wearing a Wigan shirt and something that happens at every club, in every game, every week, every year as some kind of justification for their ****bag coach's tactics last night Wigan fans still waffling on about something that happened last night.
Leeds fans still waffling on about something that happened seasons ago involving a player that doesn't even play for us anymore.

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Sinfield goldenboot- how was he ever better than any of the aussies in the NRL? Corruption Alive & Well in SL

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Mash Butty "Sinfield goldenboot- how was he ever better than any of the aussies in the NRL? Corruption Alive & Well in SL'"



Don't believe an independent magazine equals the whole SL, but whatever.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "BJB was poor tonight,but of course he wasnt to blame for the defeat,there were average performances from the team throughout.I think its a fair point to say we should be stopping the constant rotating of the wings now though.

if you were refering to any of my earlier posts I certainly wasnt having a pop at the coach.If anything I would say its a credit to wane how he took advantage of the situation to the max.'"


BJB was one of several for Leeds that were ineffective but why pick him out before others? He was selected on merit having played well in previous games and has a high try to game ratio. He was not at fault for any of their tries and was given no opportunities on attack. You may recall Briscoe in his last game made some errors including a bad defensive one which let in a try. I favour picking the man in form and while at Leeds that should include BJB. No doubt Briscoe will be back against Hull.

Wigan's enthusiastic defence snuffed out Sutcliffe for all the game and Hardaker and Hall for most of the game so BJB was in good company. He did make a good supporting run which could have won us the game had McGuire passed to him.

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