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"Leeds is the greatest club in Rugby League" Alex Murphy 2011:



I wonder how long after the season is over we’ll be getting the email from Gawry. In light of the number of emails he’s sent trying to raise morale (and funds) over the last 7 years he’s probably run out of material. Maybe it’s time for a ghostwriter ? Step forward Jamie Jones Buchanan. There will be no mention of over rated underperforming Australians, powder puff 5 minute props or half backs that can’t even kick a rugby ball properly. There will be “overcoming adversity” , “climbing mountains together”, believe in the process” and biblical references to the second coming of Brad Dwyer. As if hypnotised we will throw our money ( no cheques or cash please) at the board for Gawry to squander as he feels best. I am sure there’s a phoenix waiting to rise from the ashes somewhere, I’m just not sure it’s in Leeds 6.

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Quote: christopher "He’s been carrying the pack for a couple of years, Oledski isn’t the problem.

You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.'"


According to you there isn't a player in the squad that is the problem. If that is the case why are we in the situation we are.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Which of our current prop forwards do you think is a better player, or indeed better value for money than Oledzki?'"


Given we don't know his salary details we cannot comment on his value for money. All you can say is that none of them are of the required standard if you want to be challenging the top 3/4 sides. His attempt at a tackle for the first Wigan try was embarrassing.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Given we don't know his salary details we cannot comment on his value for money. All you can say is that none of them are of the required standard if you want to be challenging the top 3/4 sides. His attempt at a tackle for the first Wigan try was embarrassing.'"

So your strategy would be get rid of all the props (all contracted) and somehow source 4 better quality replacements in a market where decent props are at a premium? Personally I think that’s an impossible ask in the context of the salary cap.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "According to you there isn't a player in the squad that is the problem. If that is the case why are we in the situation we are.'"


This simply doesn’t make sense does it. I’ve literally said he’s been carrying the pack, now what do you think that means. Is it

A. I think that our pack isn’t a problem and everything is fine?

B. I clearly think our pack is an issue which is why I mentioned someone is carrying them on his own?

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Quote: christopher "This simply doesn’t make sense does it. I’ve literally said he’s been carrying the pack, now what do you think that means. Is it

A. I think that our pack isn’t a problem and everything is fine?

B. I clearly think our pack is an issue which is why I mentioned someone is carrying them on his own?'"



He has not carried them on his own though has he .

He has had 2 pretty ordinary seasons .

The sad thing though is he is still our best prop which says it all

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Mik os fine as a first 17 prop.
His form hasn't been great this year or so but who in the squad has?

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Sam Lisone IMO is better value than big Mick.

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He needs to sort out his conditioning though hopefully BA can get him lean.

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Quote: Chesterrhino "Sam Lisone IMO is better value than big Mick.'"




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There’s two things wrong with that statement, firstly Mik is many times the player Sam is, and secondly, we have no idea what they get paid.

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Bet Sam’s not on what Micks on and when was the last time Mick made a break or burst a tackle or even got aggressive with an opponent.

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Quote: Chesterrhino "Bet Sam’s not on what Micks on and when was the last time Mick made a break or burst a tackle or even got aggressive with an opponent.'"




And when was the last time Sam did not have his hands on his hips sucking in air after 5 minutes

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According to stats

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SL 8.06 / 184
MO 8.23 / 262

Clean Breaks
SL 2
MO 3

Metres / tackle busts
SL 1483 /66
MO 2156 /47


Tackles / missed tackles
SL 320 /38
MO 545 /49


Games played
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Also suprised Mik is only 25 and lisone 30 years old

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