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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "Maybe no players is a bit strong, but I don't think I'd swap any of our backs for yours. Possibly Manfredi for Briscoe based on age, and Tomkins if he'd play in the halves.

Out of your pack I'd have Mickey Mac and Bateman, but that's it.

I think in general Wigan have relied (and it has worked) on their structure, rather than awesome individuals, that's why their youngsters have stepped up and why on paper there's no one that I'm super envious of.'"


Obviously without trying to be biased, I think Clubb is the best impact forward in the league coming off the bench. He is a tank. Can't comment on Falloon as no bugger has seen him so can't compare him with Mickey Mac. I would agree with Manfredi and Briscoe but that is a close one, I think Manfredi would get the nod because of his size difference and power on kick returns. If Sam is the player he was i have him over Hardaker all day long. If i had to merge a team it would look something like :-

1. Tomkins
5. Hall 2. Manfredi
4. Moon 3. Watkins
6. McGuire 7. Williams
13. O'Loughlin
12. Bateman 11. Farrell
10. Flower 9.???? 8.Cuthbertson

14. Garbutt
15. Singleton
16. Clubb
17. Lilley

EDIT :- That could even be an England team taking Moon and Garbutt out. Clearly Burgess and co would have something to say about that though icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Pacific "I'm a Wigan fan and i wanted to know what you all think. I dont want to jynx it but ive never been this confident before a game against your lads for years. I think Sinfield and Peacock did carry your team for big parts of last year and we're seeing this is true now you are struggling. Also I think your recruitment has been poor and you've just signed journeymen.

Of course, the Huddersfield game could give you momentum now and this is one positive for you.

Anyway, im confident how are you all feeling?'"

A vintage post from Hicksville

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Obviously without trying to be biased, I think Clubb is the best impact forward in the league coming off the bench. He is a tank. Can't comment on Falloon as no bugger has seen him so can't compare him with Mickey Mac. I would agree with Manfredi and Briscoe but that is a close one, I think Manfredi would get the nod because of his size difference and power on kick returns. If Sam is the player he was i have him over Hardaker all day long. If i had to merge a team it would look something like

You must be joking! why would you have Tomkins instead of Hardaker. Tomkins has already peaked and is slowly on a downward spiral as a pose to Hardaker who had a class year last season and is only going to get better.

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Wigan fan starts topic on southstander ---> Whinos fans "foaming at the mouth" responses.

Predictable - NOT.

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Quote: bamber678 "You must be joking! why would you have Tomkins instead of Hardaker. Tomkins has already peaked and is slowly on a downward spiral as a pose to Hardaker who had a class year last season and is only going to get better.'"


Why would i have Tomkins? Well your assumption that he has peaked is based on nothing. Presuming he comes back a better player with a fraction of the pace he had he walks all over Hardaker as he has done all his career. His attack is 10x better, his link up play is 10x better, his ability to dummy players is 10x better and his positional sense is 10x better. All in all, a much better player. Ask the England coaches who constantly overlook Hardaker. A Man Of Steel player who was very easily found out in the New Zealand tests. Sam may not have had as much as an impact as he had in SL but just saying he brings back 2 years of good NRL coaching to add to his game. He would be even better. To write him off without seeing him play is folly to do.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Why would i have Tomkins? Well your assumption that he has peaked is based on nothing. Presuming he comes back a better player with a fraction of the pace he had he walks all over Hardaker as he has done all his career. His attack is 10x better, his link up play is 10x better, his ability to dummy players is 10x better and his positional sense is 10x better. All in all, a much better player. Ask the England coaches who constantly overlook Hardaker. A Man Of Steel player who was very easily found out in the New Zealand tests. Sam may not have had as much as an impact as he had in SL but just saying he brings back 2 years of good NRL coaching to add to his game. He would be even better. To write him off without seeing him play is folly to do.'"

Can you not see the obvious link between a treble-winning, Man of Steel Rhinos player in SL, and being an outstanding world class player?

Nope?

Neither can I.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Without running through the full teams. There isn't one team in the league that wouldn't want Bateman in their side.'"


Don't be daft. He can't even get into the 2nd row for England. He wouldn't get ahead of Ferres or Ward. Probably Ablett aswell.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Without running through the full teams. There isn't one team in the league that wouldn't want Bateman in their side.'"


In the unlikely event that he stopped all his niggle, charging into fights and Wane taught 'gamesmanship' - perhaps.

A modern day Ryan Bailey.

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Yeah, you need a good kicking option on the bench too.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Obviously without trying to be biased, I think Clubb is the best impact forward in the league coming off the bench. He is a tank. Can't comment on Falloon as no bugger has seen him so can't compare him with Mickey Mac. I would agree with Manfredi and Briscoe but that is a close one, I think Manfredi would get the nod because of his size difference and power on kick returns. If Sam is the player he was i have him over Hardaker all day long. If i had to merge a team it would look something like :-

1. Tomkins
5. Hall 2. Manfredi
4. Moon 3. Watkins
6. McGuire 7. Williams
13. O'Loughlin
12. Bateman 11. Farrell
10. Flower 9.???? 8.Cuthbertson

14. Garbutt
15. Singleton
16. Clubb
17. Lilley

EDIT :- That could even be an England team taking Moon and Garbutt out. Clearly Burgess and co would have something to say about that though

This is also ridiculous. For a start, you can't even get the halves the right way round, you leave out the treblr winning man of steel, you leave out England's best second row against NZ, and you pick the most over rated player in world rugby at loose. Sort it out

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Quote: William Eve "Wigan fan starts topic on southstander ---> Whinos fans "foaming at the mouth" responses.

Predictable - NOT.'"

no he was trolling and he got the response he was fishing for and lets face it we get this kind of thing on every forum.

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Quote: lionarmour87 "no he was trolling and he got the response he was fishing for and lets face it we get this kind of thing on every forum.'"

Can't anyone offer an opinion these days without it being stamped upon as trolling?

Wigan fan starts a thread... offers an opinion... confident his team will beat Leeds because?... Leeds no longer have Sinfield & Peacock (TRUE)... who pretty much carried Leeds last season (Possibly TRUE to a large degree)... is of the opinion Leeds haven't recruited very well (Leeds fans already slagging off Galloway, wondering when TF Falloon is going to play, don't rate Mullally, think Ferres is a penalty machine, etc)...

How is all that above trolling?

The Wigan fan is merely relaying what Leeds fans on this forum have already opined to a very large degree.

Fact is... it's a Wigan fan and that's the only reason you lot are acting like a bullying mob and frothing at the gills!

Grow up!

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Quote: William Eve "Can't anyone offer an opinion these days without it being stamped upon as trolling?

Wigan fan starts a thread... offers an opinion... confident his team will beat Leeds because?... Leeds no longer have Sinfield & Peacock (TRUE)... who pretty much carried Leeds last season (Possibly TRUE to a large degree)... is of the opinion Leeds haven't recruited very well (Leeds fans already slagging off Galloway, wondering when TF Falloon is going to play, don't rate Mullally, think Ferres is a penalty machine, etc)...

How is all that above trolling?

The Wigan fan is merely relaying what Leeds fans on this forum have already opined to a very large degree.

Fact is... it's a Wigan fan and that's the only reason you lot are acting like a bullying mob and frothing at the gills!

Grow up!'"

who do you support then? cant be Leeds

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Quote: William Eve "Can't anyone offer an opinion these days without it being stamped upon as trolling?

Wigan fan starts a thread... offers an opinion... confident his team will beat Leeds because?... Leeds no longer have Sinfield & Peacock (TRUE)... who pretty much carried Leeds last season (Possibly TRUE to a large degree)... is of the opinion Leeds haven't recruited very well (Leeds fans already slagging off Galloway, wondering when TF Falloon is going to play, don't rate Mullally, think Ferres is a penalty machine, etc)...

How is all that above trolling?

The Wigan fan is merely relaying what Leeds fans on this forum have already opined to a very large degree.

Fact is... it's a Wigan fan and that's the only reason you lot are acting like a bullying mob and frothing at the gills!

Grow up!'"

All you do is Troll this Forum. Maybe matching your IP Address up to other User Accounts would show you have multiple?

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Quote: suffolk rhinos "who do you support then? cant be Leeds'"

What are you trying to say?

If you're not a Leeds supporter, then eff off away from this forum?

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