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| Was that before or after he tried to decapitate Sir Kev?
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| he was watching the screen and reacting to the pass that was about 5 yards forward (no bitterness intended, seriously watch it again)
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| makes up for the one that wasn't then
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| Quote ="rawzy!"he was watching the screen and reacting to the pass that was about 5 yards forward (no bitterness intended, seriously watch it again)'"
5 yards, really?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"makes up for the one that wasn't then'"
If its the Ryan Hall first half one you are refering to, then I can say that being dead level with that, it was yards forward.....The ball drifted a good 2 or 3 yards in the air.
I have no problem with the result though....You were the better of 2 well matched sides and Sinfield was head and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch - He was the definite difference and without detracting from your side as a whole, I'd be interested in what you would be like without him.
I suspect it would be similar to Wigan without Tomkins....
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| Quote ="rawzy!"he was watching the screen and reacting to the pass that was about 5 yards forward (no bitterness intended, seriously watch it again)'"
The pass want forward nor was the one silverwood blew for.
Get over it.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"
The ball drifted a good 2 or 3 yards in the air.
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thats not the definition of a forward pass
Read the rules again Momentum Rule...
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| Quote ="Fetlar"Was that before or after he tried to decapitate Sir Kev?'"
Do you mean the accidental head clash from the attempted charge down
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| Quote ="rawzy!"he was watching the screen and reacting to the pass that was about 5 yards forward (no bitterness intended, seriously watch it again)'" Yes he was. It was forward too IMO, but the one to Hall was passed backwards, but traveled forwards relative to the ground.
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| Quote ="BoxerTom"Do you mean the accidental head clash from the attempted charge down'"
Balls, monahan new what he was doing. Wire had a few attempts at putting sini out of the game. Westwoods knees to the ribs was another.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"If its the Ryan Hall first half one you are refering to, then I can say that being dead level with that, it was yards forward.....The ball drifted a good 2 or 3 yards in the air.
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You know it actually doesn't matter what happens to the ball in the air. It's the direction it leaves the players hands and it didn't leave sinfields hands forward. It was the same as your try at the end of the first half.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"thats not the definition of a forward pass
Read the rules again Momentum Rule...
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Direction of Pass 1.
The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground.
A player running towards his opponentsโ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind him but because of the throwerโs own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground.
This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to himself.
This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Balls, monahan new what he was doing. Wire had a few attempts at putting sini out of the game. Westwoods knees to the ribs was another.'"
He had his eyes shut and his head down as he tried to block the ball and accidentally caught Sinfield, if they were really going to do Sinfield then somone like Paul Wood would have hit him high with a forearm or shoulder.
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| I actually thought he said wow due to the quality of the pass? Wasn't it after BJB went in.
I don't think MM went in to headbutt sir kev, but for me it was a late challenge
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| I thought it was a sarcastic wow after the (very poor) tackle attempts from Riley and Hodgson.
P.S. well done Leeds. Great game.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Balls, monahan new what he was doing. Wire had a few attempts at putting sini out of the game. Westwoods knees to the ribs was another.'"
Spot on. I've watched the Monaghan incident again (whilst sober). It was an attempted assassination.
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| Quote ="Peter Kingsley"You know it actually doesn't matter what happens to the ball in the air. It's the direction it leaves the players hands and it didn't leave sinfields hands forward. It was the same as your try at the end of the first half.'"
To be honest, I thought the pass was slightly forward and the 'drift' took it even more forward.
Anyway, it made no difference to the outcome and didn't stop the deserved winners taking the trophy.
As for the so-called 'assisination' attempts on Sinfield?.....Come on guys, its rugby, let's not dilute it even more further than we already have done. Certain players will be targeted, mostly legally, occasionally illegally. I thought yesterday was a good, old fashioned game of rugby between two hard playing, evenly matched sides and Sinfield's performance was exceptional, even more so because he had obviously been identified by Wire as the dangerman and yet he still saw off that challenge and lead his team to a good win.
I've said in another post somewhere that, until yesterday, I was pretty unconvinced by your skipper, but after that performance I will definitely view him in a more favourable way....Great player and a great leader.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"If its the Ryan Hall first half one you are refering to, then I can say that being dead level with that, it was yards forward.....The ball drifted a good 2 or 3 yards in the air.
I have no problem with the result though....You were the better of 2 well matched sides and Sinfield was head and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch - He was the definite difference and without detracting from your side as a whole, I'd be interested in what you would be like without him.
I suspect it would be similar to Wigan without Tomkins....
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And wires without briers
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| Quote ="BoxerTom" if they were really going to do Sinfield then somone like Paul Wood would have hit him high with a forearm or shoulder.'"
Nah, Wood doesn't have the balls to do something like that......
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Probably as a result if trying to pull out. If he was trying to hurt him he'd gave led with the forearm or shoulder
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Probably as a result if trying to pull out. If he was trying to hurt him he'd gave led with the forearm or shoulder
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| Quote ="The Eagle"Probably as a result if trying to pull out. '"
If I'm trying to pull out I don't stick my head in. (But then, I've got 5 kids so maybe I'm doing it wrong...)
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| It wasn't at all intentional. He was going far too fast to pull out.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"Probably as a result if trying to pull out. If he was trying to hurt him he'd gave led with the forearm or shoulder'"
This is right.
I'd have said it was late, clumsy and probably petulant but it wasn't a deliberate intent to injure. If it were he wouldn't have gone head first and I can't see that Warrington had any policy to try and take sinfield out.
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| Quote ="Ian Scott"This is right.
I'd have said it was late, clumsy and probably petulant but it wasn't a deliberate intent to injure. If it were he wouldn't have gone head first and I can't see that Warrington had any policy to try and take sinfield out.'"
Agree it was late and clumsy but for me not deliberate.
Warrington had a plan to close our kicker down. Understandable with what he did to Wigan and completely fair.
Kev has a Neanderthal shaped head and it clearly helped him
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