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If Leeds can show the commitment that hull kr and london are showing we might have a chance. ?

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I hope we show a lot more than these two. They both look half ar53d

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If only and if we get beat I dont want to hear Agar say we are on the right track '

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If we do get relegated at least it will give us a chance to release all the deadwood in one go

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "If we do get relegated at least it will give us a chance to release all the deadwood in one go'"

Are contracts dependent on us being in Super League? Honestly don't know.
We'd lose a huge wedge in Sky money, and have everyone and his dog circling around the best players we have remaining and our juniors.
Might be a windfall for SMTM but there is no guarantee we'd be back in SL soon.
I reckon 80% of the necessary player changes will have happened by the end of this year anyway, we don't need relegation to help it on its way. If we still have a couple of hanger-on I can live with that.

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SL clauses are probably standard and generally suit both clubs and players.

Any attempt to suggest being relegated somehow has a bright side is ridiculous compared to the negatives. Make no mistake, if we get relegated it will damage the club. We might survive better than others, but not without some major costs, and we might well lose players we really want to keep. Can anyone guarantee we'll lose Golding, Cuthbertson etc and not Walker and Newman if they're free to talk to other clubs?

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Quote: KaeruJim "Are contracts dependent on us being in Super League? Honestly don't know.
We'd lose a huge wedge in Sky money, and have everyone and his dog circling around the best players we have remaining and our juniors.
Might be a windfall for SMTM but there is no guarantee we'd be back in SL soon.
I reckon 80% of the necessary player changes will have happened by the end of this year anyway, we don't need relegation to help it on its way. If we still have a couple of hanger-on I can live with that.'"


This myth on the contracts is getting silly now. I thought Leigh confirmed all this the other year. Contracts are not null and void on relegation. They are only null and void if the club goes part time from full time.

Unless there is a clause in the contract that the player can leave, then you are stuck with them if they don’t want to go, or payed off fully. If you go part time, then you are really finished. Only the good players will really want to get out of their contracts and leave willingly.

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I think would be redundancies at office staff level too

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There is not one single positive thing about being relegated, not one.

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Quote: christopher "There is not one single positive thing about being relegated, not one.'"

They way its going it may be the ONLY thing that makes the penny drop that those in charge of recruitment have failed the Club & i include GH.
The fact we are 11th & still dont have a settled squad/Coaching staff with only 11 games left is a complete & utter shambles no ifs buts or maybes.
You're only as good as your last game etc/season & whilst some improvement has been made in effort & desire (that should be a given) we're in a genuine relegation dog fight.
If we pull through id rip the whole 1st Team organisation apart & re-build from scratch in fact those plans should already be in place imo & they shouldnt include ANY of the current staff.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "They way its going it may be the ONLY thing that makes the penny drop that those in charge of recruitment have failed the Club & i include GH.
The fact we are 11th & still dont have a settled squad/Coaching staff with only 11 games left is a complete & utter shambles no ifs buts or maybes.
You're only as good as your last game etc/season & whilst some improvement has been made in effort & desire (that should be a given) we're in a genuine relegation dog fight.
If we pull through id rip the whole 1st Team organisation apart & re-build from scratch in fact those plans should already be in place imo & they shouldnt include ANY of the current staff.'"


What do you think they are currently doing Mark? Do we do the same thing everything year? What you are proposing is exactly what has/is happening and it takes time unfortunately.

I am in total agreement with you on it being amatuerish that it takes so long to put a coach in place, especially when you consider we went from looking for a new assistant, to sacking the head afterwards, and now still have no assistant or head. But these things need putting in place to move on with that stability and reshaping.

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Quote: Gotcha "This myth on the contracts is getting silly now. I thought Leigh confirmed all this the other year. Contracts are not null and void on relegation. They are only null and void if the club goes part time from full time.

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you sure about that, they only kept about half a dozen players from their SL squad when they got relegated, looked like a lot got released.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "you sure about that, they only kept about half a dozen players from their SL squad when they got relegated, looked like a lot got released.'"


Like I said, if you have a release clause in the contract, or the player willingly wants to go. The point was, they are not null and void. Leigh were stuck with some who wouldn't come out of their overpaid contracts, and it was costing them big at the time.

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Quote: Gotcha "Like I said, if you have a release clause in the contract, or the player willingly wants to go. The point was, they are not null and void. Leigh were stuck with some who wouldn't come out of their overpaid contracts, and it was costing them big at the time.'"


rlHere is a statement from Derek Beaumont.rl

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Quote: Cokey "rlHere is a statement from Derek Beaumont.rl'"


And there you go. Dispels the myth with that one statement.

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