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Will he miss first two games of season or can he serve the ban by missing friendlies?

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Can and will be served in pre season games

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And Lee Smith got one game. Indisciplined Leeds (and ex-Leeds) players! icon_wink.gif

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Bet greg worthington wishes he would miss only 2 pre season games done his cruciate knee ligament..

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Quote: eastardsley "Bet greg worthington wishes he would miss only 2 pre season games done his cruciate knee ligament..'"




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I've not watched it back so only seen it live, how bad was the jjb tackle?

Appreciate the centre has done his ligaments but injuries are part of sport. Was jjb out to deliberately injure him, it just looked like to movement in the tackle saw jjb move awkwardly which hurt the player.

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Feel sorry for Worthington. I have no problem with JJB getting a ban.
A consequence of wrestling players upright as long as possible then bringing them down just as the ref calls held. Lots of stress on the knees. JJB was swinging with both his feet off the ground, think they quite rightly want to stop this.

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Quote: Fallon "I've not watched it back so only seen it live, how bad was the jjb tackle?

Appreciate the centre has done his ligaments but injuries are part of sport. Was jjb out to deliberately injure him, it just looked like to movement in the tackle saw jjb move awkwardly which hurt the player.'"


Never set out to injure him, only a select few players who do that sort of thing. But it was a clumsy carless tackle technique that has no place, and rightfully banned.

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Quote: Gotcha "Never set out to injure him, only a select few players who do that sort of thing. But it was a clumsy carless tackle technique that has no place, and rightfully banned.'"

Then that is fair enough.

On a related point. Jjb gets two games for reckless and Smith gets one game for sliding in with knees to an opponents head? Not bashing Smith directly but is one 100% more dangerous than the other? I'm not so sure.

I would wager that had Worthington got straight up and played the ball no action would have been taken.

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On the other hand if someone now misses 6 months of rugby compared to someone who would be fit to play the next week. Should that be considered?

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Quote: Fallon "Then that is fair enough.

On a related point. Jjb gets two games for reckless and Smith gets one game for sliding in with knees to an opponents head? Not bashing Smith directly but is one 100% more dangerous than the other? I'm not so sure.

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....or Flower gets 2 for deliberately elbowing a player in the face after the ball has gone.

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Chapylad and dhm, I totally agree with your sentiments, I'm simply questioning the rationale and consistency of bans.

Had Worthington got up would jjb have even been sin binned? I honestly believe not. That's not to say the tackle wasn't reckless just that as a game we tend to be more keen to punish when an injury occurs.

To me this is totally unacceptable. We should punish hard reckless and obviously those with intent regardless of injury as its about protecting players. Yet consistently this never happens.

As for that prat flower. Don't get me started. I'd have given him a much longer ban for what he did on hohiah. As for the warrington red card, it just shows his mentality and that of Wane.

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Quote: chapylad "On the other hand if someone now misses 6 months of rugby compared to someone who would be fit to play the next week. Should that be considered?'"


No. Didn't the kid play on for a while after the tackle? If there was any initial damage then playing on with it can't have helped. JJB should rightly serve a ban but the damage could have been exacerbated by the lad saying he was OK to continue or their medical team not realising the extent of the injury. Can't hold JJB responsible for that IMO.

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not been to red hall on a disciplinary since 2009 and his lost his egp for the injury and gave him full 2 match ban for clumsy,lazy but by no means intentional can remember jp and o'locklin get reduced sentence for outstanding disciplinary record yet again the rfl are consistently inconsistent

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Quote: Fallon "Chapylad and dhm, I totally agree with your sentiments, I'm simply questioning the rationale and consistency of bans.

Had Worthington got up would jjb have even been sin binned? I honestly believe not. That's not to say the tackle wasn't reckless just that as a game we tend to be more keen to punish when an injury occurs.

To me this is totally unacceptable. We should punish hard reckless and obviously those with intent regardless of injury as its about protecting players. Yet consistently this never happens.

As for that prat flower. Don't get me started. I'd have given him a much longer ban for what he did on hohiah. As for the warrington red card, it just shows his mentality and that of Wane.'"

Fallon and Ryano again I`m not disputing what you are saying either.
I think we all or pretty much all of us feel the same way.
There`s no consistency whatsoever.
With regards to Flower I thought he deliberately went in with the elbow and knew what he was doing and he only got two games for being a model professional!!
Charnley gets 2 games, Bailey 3 games and JP nothing for the same offence.
Surely the RFL can work even the easy ones out.

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