Something has to be done from up top to arrest our current situation. Otherwise there's a 50/50 chance we will be relegated in the million pound game.

However whenever someone on here makes suggestions there's always that person who responds and shuts it down ''but there's no coaches/players available...it's not mcdermott's fault the player's aren't putting in 100% yadda yadda''. Always obstacles never solutions.

If it was bottom goes down this season the current situation would be defcon 5 (or whatever the strongest one of those is) and GH would have taken action. But they are living under the false security of the middle 8's.

There's gotta be something - hooker/halfback in aus not getting a game or in reserve grade that can come over until the end of the season to steady the ship in the centre of the park. Or a coach a available. They don't have to be wayne bennett just someone who can get a treble winning team last year not to be relegated. Are we up to our overseas quota or is there someone we can fiddle the system with?

My point is, if they are in the right mentality of ''something needs to be done'' then something can be done.

Failing that maybe a new way of motivating the players to put in 100%. Look at the warrington game, and then look at the defensive set immediately after the dust up with singleton and simms. They players had good line speed as a unit, they were tackling with oomph and that little bit extra and then at the end they forced an error. That was there for that set and you could see the difference and then you know they aren't defending with everything they've got.

If leeds get relegated these players contracts become null and void. Right? Lots of uncertainty. Most of the top clubs will have tied up their recruitment by then, so these players will be scrapping for clubs, it could mean reduced wages with performances this year and not many options, which could effect mortgage payments, lifestyle, they could have to relocate which could have implications on family life.

If the players weren't already thinking about these possibilities as a result of current performances then they need to be told. Forget whether the coach is liked etc etc It's playing for jobs.

good point .I suppose he could start by sending out another email ,his last one cheered me up for a while

yes he can send a weekly email to cheer us up but it will only last up to the next game and then he will have to send another . I believe the Salford game if it is a loss following the probable loss to Catalans will be the night Hetherington will have to sack Mac as that would be the time the crowd will finally have had enough . How the Doc would love that .

The players and the coach are not meeting the required standards, if the club was a normal place of work those employees not meeting the required standards would be on performance review and goals would be set, if employees don't meet those goals and show signs of improvement then they are shown the door.

The players and coach need to be given the same warning step up or ship out, this needs to be made quite clear.

We did this around 2002. And only Wayne McDonald showed signs of improvement, at the end of the season, Ben walker, Ryan Sheridan, Andy Hay, Karl Pratt and a few others were released, the following year we almost one the Cc and were champions a year later.

He can quit being parsimonious, that's what he can do.

Funding a reserve grade would be a good start.

That's what professionally run clubs do. They run a reserve grade.

That's a different debate.

He can give a coach a squad they want not the one GH approves.

He can get a coach in who can make the players perform to their ability - even you are McDermott's greatest fan have to accept McDermott isn't doing that.

You have now found a new excuse:

1. Players too arrogant after 2015 - why did that not happen in 2008,2009, 2012?
2. The game against the Kiwis
3. SPOTY
4. Training facilities
5. Injuries
6. Ref's not playing fair
7. Players not wanting to try
8. McDermott can't have Jonathan Thurston!!

Or maybe you are just playing Devil's advocate - you are a n0b of the first order

Nuff said

Start looking for a new coach, hooker and half back. Release Delaney (too knackered), Achurch (useless) and one of Burrow,sutty or Lilley...my preference being burrow .

Signing wise I'd love Clarke or Dryer for hooker, unsure on coach and half back. Gale, maybe ?.
I also think if we can keep Ferres we should . I'd love to see what he can do in a winning team when he isn't playing long minutes to cover injuries and lack of props

Maybe he thinks the current coaching staff and playing squad are good enough to get us out of this.

Again people thinking because we are Leeds it will somehow be easier to get the players/coach we need now....even if Leeds were a mighty SL trophy winning team it would not be so easy......as it happens we are a fast declining championship looking team.

If I was a Clark/Dwyer/Gale or even a new Bailey I'm not sure I would be so keen on joining a plummeting sick club. ... or at best being one of the new signings left with the weight of responsibilty of somehow turning the rock bottom club's fortunes around.