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Is it me or was Kieron Cunningham watching a completely different game to me last night ?

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He has to say something - can't see him seeing the season out tbh

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Unless they win something, which seems unlikely, I think Saints have given up the right to be involved in this comp for a while tbh. Give their place to a Hull or something - at least there would be a decent crowd.

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They should have drug tested him - he definitely sounded like he was on something!!

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On last nights performance Saints would not have got with 12 points of the current Superleague's bottom club!!!!

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Could be a long season for Saints, especially if their coach is satisfied with that

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Sounded like a dead man walking to me.

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T'was a bizarre interview and almost on a par with some of McDermott's early efforts (yellow rubber gloves notwithstanding).

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Credit to Saints, they reduced the margin from last year.

The bounce of the ball, refereeing decisions etc had nothing to do with the result though. I know from speaking to Saints fans there's an enormous frustration with the way they play under Cunningham though, which might get covered over by good results but if they don't start picking up wins I can see him gone before Magic Weekend.

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Think they need to announce one or two impressive signings this year to at least offer something to their fans to look ahead to in 2017. Quite a few underwhelming signings there recently, a bit like us early days McDermott with the likes of Richard Moore, Ben Cross, Weller Hauraki etc but then got our act together with the likes of Moon, Briscoe, Cuthbertson and Ferres.

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It was utterly bizarre from Cunningham. I hope he was trying to manage his teams emotions and was just really bad at it. If he really means what he says then Saints have big problems. But either way he's made himself look very foolish.

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Quote: Him "It was utterly bizarre from Cunningham. I hope he was trying to manage his teams emotions and was just really bad at it. If he really means what he says then Saints have big problems. But either way he's made himself look very foolish.'"


I'm not sure, seems to be a reoccurring theme with his post match interviews. I know on the Saints board they were critical of his comments after the Salford game and some of our wins against them last year his interviews I thought sounded poor.

In terms of post match interviews he's becoming the worst in the league which is saying something considering some of the other coaches.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I'm not sure, seems to be a reoccurring theme with his post match interviews. I know on the Saints board they were critical of his comments after the Salford game and some of our wins against them last year his interviews I thought sounded poor.

In terms of post match interviews he's becoming the worst in the league which is saying something considering some of the other coaches.'"

Agree, I was disappointed with Cunningham's comments last season. He seemed to fluctuate wildly from utterly, OTT lambasting his team to laying the blame on bad luck or bad reffing and often disrespecting the opposition.

It seems to me anyway that he can't really control his emotions, which is strange considering he rarely seemed to lose it when he was a player.

I've thought for a while that Saints have made some poor decisions with their staff. I think they made Mike Rush CEO very quickly considering only a few years ago he was just coaching the academy. I think they've got carried away with having ex Saints players on the staff. IIRC there's Sean Long, Tommy Martyn, Paul Wellens & Ade Gardner in addition to Cunningham. Not to mention I think Cunningham was put into the job very quickly.

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Quote: Him "Agree, I was disappointed with Cunningham's comments last season. He seemed to fluctuate wildly from utterly, OTT lambasting his team to laying the blame on bad luck or bad reffing and often disrespecting the opposition.

It seems to me anyway that he can't really control his emotions, which is strange considering he rarely seemed to lose it when he was a player.

I've thought for a while that Saints have made some poor decisions with their staff. I think they made Mike Rush CEO very quickly considering only a few years ago he was just coaching the academy. I think they've got carried away with having ex Saints players on the staff. IIRC there's Sean Long, Tommy Martyn, Paul Wellens & Ade Gardner in addition to Cunningham. Not to mention I think Cunningham was put into the job very quickly.'"


It's why I'm not overally fussed about any of the 'Golden Generation' being suggested for head coaching gigs at Leeds after retirement. If they go away first somewhere lower down and show themselves to be quality then think about it. Can try adding one to the coaching staff if you really think it'll improve the staff and squad to do so. As good as some of our guys have been for us as players, history in sport is full of great players who failed as coaches.

Like you said it seems very 'jobs for the boys' over at Saints at the moment and they look to be heading backwards because of it. What will be interesting if it does then how long will they hold off on pulling the trigger on Cunningham and his boys. I just get the feeling because of his status there that they'll be much more relucatant to do it than if it was any other coach who didn't have a Saints legacy and thus they'll keep him potentially longer than they should.

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Quote: ThePrinter "It's why I'm not overally fussed about any of the 'Golden Generation' being suggested for head coaching gigs at Leeds after retirement. If they go away first somewhere lower down and show themselves to be quality then think about it. Can try adding one to the coaching staff if you really think it'll improve the staff and squad to do so. As good as some of our guys have been for us as players, history in sport is full of great players who failed as coaches.

Like you said it seems very 'jobs for the boys' over at Saints at the moment and they look to be heading backwards because of it. What will be interesting if it does then how long will they hold off on pulling the trigger on Cunningham and his boys. I just get the feeling because of his status there that they'll be much more relucatant to do it than if it was any other coach who didn't have a Saints legacy and thus they'll keep him potentially longer than they should.'"

Spot on. Daryl Powell is the best example of this. Club board members get obsessed with the continuity idea instead of accepting that a golden era has been and gone. Thought Saints were heading in the right direction with a great crop of youngsters, but sadly they are being led by an inept coaching setup.

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