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As he paid his own way here did he get a return ticket or does he need donations to get back ?

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I'm sure every loyal fan will agree a good kicking when he's down is the best thing for him.

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Quote: Fetlar "I'm sure every loyal fan will agree a good kicking when he's down is the best thing for him.'"


What would you suggest - glowing reports on his performance last night?

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"He's the best coach I've had... His mix of man-management and his game plan is second to none. Since Brian Mac has been in charge, we've been in every final so far. I love playing for him. I can't praise him enough, I've so much respect for him and I hope he's here for a very long time." Kevin Sinfield 29/9/12:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68506.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "What would you suggest - glowing reports on his performance last night?'"


I'd suggest that such harsh criticism of a young player is counter-productive. His fumbles last night are indicative of a player low on confidence. Supporters should do their job too in some circumstances - the clue's in the name.

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Quote: Fetlar "I'd suggest that such harsh criticism of a young player is counter-productive. His fumbles last night are indicative of a player low on confidence. Supporters should do their job too in some circumstances - the clue's in the name.'"


Fans want the best for the side and that includes its make up - when they see a player who is clearly out of his depth then perhaps a quick kill is preferable to a slow painful death.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Fans want the best for the side and that includes its make up - when they see a player who is clearly out of his depth then perhaps a quick kill is preferable to a slow painful death.'"


Exactly. Heaven help us if he is selected again against Wigan..... I feel sorry for the lad after his bold initiative to come over but the club isn't a charity and owes him nothing. Let him continue here as a dual register with Hunslet, where he will probably be more comfortable until - and if - he regains any sort of ability/confidence .....and finds his right future position (which aint wing)

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



The lad was on a 3 month trial and was probably only given a one year contract because of the expecte long term absence of BJB.Maybe we haven't got enough stength in depth like like Sinfield and Mac alluded to awhile back,but surely no one expected Vickery to perform like a world beater?

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Quote: lionarmour87 "The lad was on a 3 month trial and was probably only given a one year contract because of the expecte long term absence of BJB.Maybe we haven't got enough stength in depth like like Sinfield and Mac alluded to awhile back,but surely no one expected Vickery to perform like a world beater?'"


I'm sure they didn't....but as has been said countless times already.....why then sign him if he offers no more than what was/is already available in the acadamey ?? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "I'm sure they didn't....but as has been said countless times already.....why then sign him if he offers no more than what was/is already available in the acadamey ?? I must admit it is puzzling

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This lad is not ready for the first-team, it doesn't help when his team-mates refuse to pass to him.

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I just think people should be careful what they put. Stupid crap like this thread doesn't help anything. Ask Brett Seymour what happens when you are in a bad place and people are on your back.

It annoys me the POS people that post on here these days. Theres nothing wrong with criticism but people need to remember he was signed off of a trial with no first grade experience and was never going to be 1st choice on the wing once we were back at full strength anyway. Criticise, yes. Start dumb threads to get attention, hoping you get a few people laughing with you, pathetic.

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Quote: nantwichexile "I'm sure they didn't....but as has been said countless times already.....why then sign him if he offers no more than what was/is already available in the acadamey ??
I know you are the lover of all things under 19, but im assuming he was better than anything we had there already. He's certainly been no worse than Keinhorst was and Mac decided he was the best choice behind Vickery.

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Quote: Harrigan "I just think people should be careful what they put. Stupid crap like this thread doesn't help anything. Ask Brett Seymour what happens when you are in a bad place and people are on your back.

It annoys me the POS people that post on here these days. Theres nothing wrong with criticism but people need to remember he was signed off of a trial with no first grade experience and was never going to be 1st choice on the wing once we were back at full strength anyway. Criticise, yes. Start dumb threads to get attention, hoping you get a few people laughing with you, pathetic.'"


What is the point of a board if we can only post nice things!! If like Seymour he isn't upto the required standard what are fans who paid their money to watch him supposed to say. I am certainly not laughing - a waste of £20+ last night

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Quote: Harrigan "I know you are the lover of all things under 19, but im assuming he was better than anything we had there already. He's certainly been no worse than Keinhorst was and Mac decided he was the best choice behind Vickery.'"


Doesn't mean it is the right call just because McDermott made it.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "What is the point of a board if we can only post nice things!! If like Seymour he isn't upto the required standard what are fans who paid their money to watch him supposed to say. I am certainly not laughing - a waste of £20+ last night'"



Then don't go, and I didn't say just say nice things. I have been very critical of players over the last 8 years on here (and was critical of Vickery in preseason and last night), but stupid threads like this are pointless, especially when he is being slated down in every other thread that seems to be going on the board. It just seems to be a jump on the band waggon and start your own thread attempt.

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