FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > Zak Hardaker
15 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7762No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4091_1342888943.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4091.jpg



On that evidence he has to be our full back for next season now, just has to be. He was brilliant today. The tackles on Hughes and Tomkins in the last 15 minutes were really special.

RankPostsTeam
International Star274No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2012Aug 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Should be the full back in the final even if Webb is fit IMO.

RankPostsTeam
International Star14No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2013May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Should have been MOTM in my opinion, he was outstanding, what a future he has!!!!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1415No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



If Leeds sign a full back i'd be fuming. Webb has lost his place and might have already played his last game for Leeds.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



He was immense and i think it should seal the no1 shirt for him now.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1309No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2021Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
62325_1407754004.gif
[quote="Jamie Peacock MBE":af0ys02h]'There's been a couple of times during my career when I've thought about moving elsewhere but, when I run out in front of 17,000, 18,000 people at Headingley, I've thought 'nah, this is the place for me'.[/quote:af0ys02h] [img:af0ys02h]http://orig08.deviantart.net/430a/f/2012/119/7/9/wolverine_sign_by_zekua-d4xydfq.jpg[/img:af0ys02h]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62325.gif



He was excellent today, A Centre he is NOT.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5526No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Mar 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: GCM1980 "On that evidence he has to be our full back for next season now, just has to be. He was brilliant today. The tackles on Hughes and Tomkins in the last 15 minutes were really special.'"


Abso-BLUDDY-lutely....!!! No way would Webb have made those tackles.

If Leeds allow Webb back at FB or, worse, sign another antipodean for next season then surely nobody can state the paid professional decision makers always know best.

VERY close to been the MOM.

Cannot think of enough superlatives for a simply sublime performance in what is proving to be without any doubt now ? his natural position.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member22289
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4615.jpg
:4615.jpg



Quote: rugbyleague88 "If Leeds sign a full back i'd be fuming. Webb has lost his place and might have already played his last game for Leeds.'"


You wouldn't be the first to express that view on here although in saying that the last person who did was proved to be very wrong.

Barring injury Hardaker should retain the position and be left to develope as the present and future custodian at the back.

Allowing a fit-again Webb to disrupt that if and when he returns to fitness would be an odd thing to do given that he's offski at the end of the campaign.

MHL
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2348No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Nov 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3443-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3443-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



whilst i've slammed webb for being lazy this year, zac is a long way off the attacking threat that webb is, which we tend to rely on massively to get us out of trouble. there is no doubt that zac is better in defence, returning the ball in general play and open field running, but unless his game changes massively then he's not going to be to joining the line and selecting the perfect pass for the outside men.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman5442
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1230.gif
“You are playing a game of football this afternoon but more than that you are playing for England, and more even than that, you are playing for right versus wrong. You will win because you have to win. Don’t forget that message from home. England expects every one of you to do his duty.”:1230.gif



Hardaker is another player forced into a centre role he doesn't fit in a vain attempt to cover up our lack of a decent replacement for many years, second rowers/fullbacks/wingers/halves - just put anyone in there

Be happy to see the last of Webb with such exciting young British players to replace him

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



Quote: MHL "whilst i've slammed webb for being lazy this year, zac is a long way off the attacking threat that webb is, which we tend to rely on massively to get us out of trouble. there is no doubt that zac is better in defence, returning the ball in general play and open field running, but unless his game changes massively then he's not going to be to joining the line and selecting the perfect pass for the outside men.'"

If you watch today Mcguire was taking the "role" you describe especially for Halls 2nd try.
With Webby leaving i agree Zac should retain the shirt and maybe we adjust the areas where Webby was most effective but i will also say this year BW has butchered the "perfect pass for the outside man" just as many times if not more than he's created.
Even with Zac at FB i have to say i still think unless its real quality then we can/should be looking from within the u20's first and foremost for a LC and i'd give Keinhorst a go at some point.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28186No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif
"As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin [url:2cg5oc2o]http://twitter.com/AndyGilder[/url:2cg5oc2o] [url:2cg5oc2o]http://fromthewesternterrace.blogspot.co.uk[/url:2cg5oc2o] This week: Four keys to a Rhinos win in the WCC:Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif



Hardaker is not less of an attacking threat than Webb, he's just a different one.

Keinhorst IMO shouldn't be shoe-horned in at left centre. He's still relatively new to the game of rugby league at Under 20 level, and should be allowed to learn his trade on the right hand side where he's played all his rugby so far. Promoting him to first team and asking him to play in an unfamiliar position would be a real challenge for him.

A year out on loan or dual reg somewhere next year, then see where he is in his development.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



AG-Keinhorst has played quite a bit in the LC role for the u20's so i don't know where yer getting that from.
Admittedly he did seem to roam and play both sides in the 9's but i can asure you i've seen him line up at LC more than once.
Also i'm not saying shoe horn him in there just give the lad a go in a couple of games (2 out of the last 4 SL games would of been ideal) just to see where he is development wise he's clearly more than comfortable at u20.
Plus imo unless it's real quality i don't see the point in bringing in an outside recruit.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach281No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



great performance from Zak imense under the high ball good returns and always a threat.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7762No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4091_1342888943.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4091.jpg



Quote: MHL "whilst i've slammed webb for being lazy this year, zac is a long way off the attacking threat that webb is, which we tend to rely on massively to get us out of trouble. there is no doubt that zac is better in defence, returning the ball in general play and open field running, but unless his game changes massively then he's not going to be to joining the line and selecting the perfect pass for the outside men.'"

He doesn't have to though does he. A fullback doesn't necessarily have to be an extra halfback, that's just how it's been for us for the last few years because we've had Webb in our side. Hardaker is his own man, he doesn't have to fit into some pre-conceived model of how a fullback should be. We'll have to adapt our style to play without Webb now. At least we won't get pulled for the inevitable forward pass every few sets.

15 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
15 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.84521484375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
14m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
19m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
31m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
39m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
173
48m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
4m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Ex-Swarcliff
82
5m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
5m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
8
5m
New Players
BigTime
102
6m
England v Australia
karetaker
32
11m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
12m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
14m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
915
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1408
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1492
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1693
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 1,444 80,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
14m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
19m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
31m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
39m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
173
48m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
4m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Ex-Swarcliff
82
5m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
5m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
8
5m
New Players
BigTime
102
6m
England v Australia
karetaker
32
11m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
12m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
14m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
915
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1408
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1492
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1693
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!