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1. S Tomkins (Wigan)
2. J Charnley (Wigan)
3. C Ablett (Leeds)
4. R Atkins (Warrington)
5. R Hall (Leeds)

6. K Sinfield (Leeds)
7. R Chase (Castleford)

8. E Crabtree (Huddersfield)
9. J Roby (St Helens)
10. J Peacock (Leeds, capt)
11. G Hock (Wigan)
12. D Tickle (Hull)

13. S O'Loughlin (Wigan).

14. R Burrow (Leeds), 15. G Carvell (Warrington), 16. L Mossop (Wigan), 17. J Jones-Buchanan (Leeds).

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What does the red text mean?

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Not a cracking team IMO. Can't see how ablett has got a starting centre spot and kev and chase in the halfs.
Chuffed for ablett to get his spot but for me he is a back row who can play centre. Wouldn't have him as a international centre

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I am not interested in this match,pehraps it's me but after watching the passion and intensity of the latest state of origin game this match looks like a damp squib. I hope I am proved wrong.

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Quote: rich86 "What does the red text mean?'"


The Red means "I hope they don't back up".

This isn't the Strongest Team McBanana could have picked.

The England Team is becoming a Joke.

McBanana needs the Boot IMO.

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Six Leeds players included.

Nice to see McNamara only picking players that are in form.

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Still can't get excited about this game to be honest. I've tried, but I just can't do it.

Looking at it as an England team, whether it's his best position or not, Ablett is quite possibly one of the best English centres in Super League. Given that it isn't his best position, that says a lot about his character and ability, but also a lot about the shocking dearth of quality English centres. Don't make me get on my hobby horse again.

I can see why McNamara thinks Sinfield and Chase would be a good combination, but it showed very few signs of working last year in the four nations so I would question how long we should persist with it. Brough would be at 7 if I was picking. Which I'm not, obviously. I might even be tempted by Tomkins at 6, provided he still had license to roam behind the line when we had the ball. I dunno though. M'eh.

What I do know is that Leeds players need an extra game like they need the proverbial holes in their heads at this point.

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Ref diablo.
Exactly my sentiments ,especially the comments about the rhinos players.peacock and sinfield they need a couple of weeks rest,not a meaningless match.

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I don`t mind Middleton Loiner starting the same thread 10 minutes after mine!!!!
So how many players do we have in the Knights team?
Even McNammara now thinks Sinfield is a stand off.
I suppose the Wigan fans will start singing the virtues of Rangi Chase now that he has been linked with joining them.

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Wouldn't put Tomkins at 6 until he plays there again at club level, which could actually happen in 2013 if Wigan can't bring in replacements for Finch and Leuluai in the halves and they go for playing Matty Russell at Fullback. If you were to move Tomkins now that also bring up the question of who would then play at 1 now? In 12 months time the likes of Eden, Russell, Hardaker (if moved there by Leeds), Makinson (if he replaces Wellens at Saints) all possiblities but not quite yet.

Some fans of other teams are really upset by Ablett inclusion and i could understand about being starting centre but i think he'd be a good choice for subs bench, a back row option who could slot in the three quaters quite comfortably if you get an injury in the backs.

People are also bemoaning the Leeds selections by saying the team isn't on form atm (1 win 4 losses), whilst at the same time the same people are calling for Brough from Huddersfield (5 losses on the trot) to be played instead. I'm not saying all the Leeds players should be picked, would rather see Mossop in place of Peacock with possibly Hill from Wire on the bench, and obviously JJB benefitted from no Westwood, Burgess, Ellis. As for the centre position Reed is almost certain to play when he's available and Watkins too if fit before any possible Goulding or Cudjoe selection so i'm not too bother by that one.

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Quote: El Diablo "Still can't get excited about this game to be honest. I've tried, but I just can't do it.

Looking at it as an England team, whether it's his best position or not, Ablett is quite possibly one of the best English centres in Super League. Given that it isn't his best position, that says a lot about his character and ability, but also a lot about the shocking dearth of quality English centres. Don't make me get on my hobby horse again.

I can see why McNamara thinks Sinfield and Chase would be a good combination, but it showed very few signs of working last year in the four nations so I would question how long we should persist with it. Brough would be at 7 if I was picking. Which I'm not, obviously. I might even be tempted by Tomkins at 6, provided he still had license to roam behind the line when we had the ball. I dunno though. M'eh.

What I do know is that Leeds players need an extra game like they need the proverbial holes in their heads at this point.'"


Is that a Hint you want Big Keith Back as the Best British Centre?

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Rangi Chase does have saome virtues as a player. Logically it sort of feels like a combination of his off-the-cuff wildcard style of play and Sinfield's more rigid pivot role ought to work. Sadly it hasn't so far. Chase for the most part looked lost in last Autumn's tests. Whether that was because other players were not used to linking with him in the way Cas's are or because that kind of bouncing around across the defensive line just isn't productive in the intensity of a test match I'm not sure. What spark we did have came from Tomkins.

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Quote: El Diablo "Rangi Chase does have saome virtues as a player. Logically it sort of feels like a combination of his off-the-cuff wildcard style of play and Sinfield's more rigid pivot role ought to work. Sadly it hasn't so far. Chase for the most part looked lost in last Autumn's tests. Whether that was because other players were not used to linking with him in the way Cas's are or because that kind of bouncing around across the defensive line just isn't productive in the intensity of a test match I'm not sure. What spark we did have came from Tomkins.'"


Rangi Chase isn't as good as the Media and McBanana the Leader of the Band would have you believe. Plus I thought Lomax and Brough should have been 6 & 7.

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All 4 Rhinos players (Hardaker, BJB, Clarkson, Lunt) in the Knights squad are still in after it got trimmed down to 19.
Lomax (Saints) Patrick (Hudds) Houghton (Hull) Watts (KR) are the 4 to be lost from the original 23 man squad, would think possibly injury reasons for their non inclusions.

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Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Is that a Hint you want Big Keith Back as the Best British Centre?'"


That would definitely highlight the lack of quality British centres in Super League.

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