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Not been at his best yet this season but more to come from the big man.
Do not think he is a waste of a shirt.

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Quote: Yabba "Not been at his best yet this season but more to come from the big man.
Do not think he is a waste of a shirt.'"



You are Ian Kirke.

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Mentioned by Macca so can't have been that bad. looking forward to TMFMISL being singled out for doing the hard yards this season. Luke Burgess, Kirke and Kylie done it this season. Lets see Bailey step up to the plate and we will be blessed!

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Do not think he is a waste of a shirt.'"


I'd argue he was at his best on Friday. He is a very useful player to have in the squad and often plays a smaller role. When he had to stand up and be counted he did. Fair play to him.

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With our limited rotational options at the KC on Friday IMO Kirke, Kylie and Burgess all knocked it up a level. When we get JP back I don't think we're looking that bad on the front row.

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "With our limited rotational options at the KC on Friday IMO Kirke, Kylie and Burgess all knocked it up a level. When we get JP back I don't think we're looking that bad on the front row.'"


I think this whole we are a club in decline thing is just other fans trying to convince themselves that they don't need to worry aout us challenging, when deep down they know we are a very dangerous team. Obviously it is only two games in but the signs so far do not not show a team in decline, we have shown already we can fight back when losing with little time to go, and graft when badly hit with injuries during the game. Other fans write us off at your peril.

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I prefer the "experts" to write us off Sibbs tbh afterall it tastes so much sweeter when we win.

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Quote: rhinoms "I prefer the "experts" to write us off Sibbs tbh afterall it tastes so much sweeter when we win.'"



At the moment the experts have wrote us off and the fans have followed, and especially after the appointment of McDermott, who everyone thinks is out of his depth. There is no real pressure for us to succeed this season, which makes it so much easier for a change.

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Indeed, i do enjoy this "under the radar" business. Most teams wont admit it but they know that we will have a say this season and should be in the mix at the end of the season. Been pretty quiet on the tabloid side too which i much prefer about Leeds. Last season every other day it seemed there was a story or "non story" coming out of HQ and it did sometimes seem that we were whinging and bemoaning our luck. Heres to the deafening sound of silence and proffesionalism.

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I hope you're right but I think we should give it time as the season is only eight days old. Having two wins on the board with a number of fortuitous calls going our way obviously helps the situation as well.

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I agree. It is early days, and I think that this season is a transitional season, when I hope to see some our younger players given their head.
Inevitably, they will make errors through lack of experience, and some will perhaps not develop as hoped. This may come back to haunt us in the short term, perhaps losing us some games. It is a long term investment well worth making IMO and may prevent or at least delay the loss of some of the future stars to Union or, indeed, other clubs..

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I have a real feeling that once Bailey is back in the squad, Kirke will be dropped out.

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I'd rather have the feeling that the squad is picked on fitness and form (rather than out and out reputation) and that no-one is dropped after a good performance in the shirt.

Of course players returning from injury also need an opportunity to step up once they become available.

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Kirke's a bit of an enigma to me. At 6 foot 4 and nearly 18 stones, he should be causing a lot more damage to the opposition than he does. That said he's certainly shown willing this season, and on Friday really stepped up his game.

Bailley may have to up his game as well, if he's going to be in contention for a spot. Which means of course, there's some healthy competition at Headingley.

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Quote: tvoc "I hope you're right but I think we should give it time as the season is only eight days old. Having two wins on the board with a number of fortuitous calls going our way obviously helps the situation as well.'"


Along with 2 wins against 2 poor sides who are just making up the SL numbers.

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