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.... matches without Kevin?

The letter of the law says very many. Without Kevin I am no longer confident of a successful season.

McGuire and Burrow back to being the half backs?

I don't think Sutcliffe or Ward or stand offs....Moon or even Watkins - so dangerous with ball in hand - would be better.

BUT then who fills the vacant centre spot? Handley?

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[quote="King Monkey":30st820n]Maybe a spell in prison would do Graham good. At least he'd lose his virginity.[/quote:30st820n]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18919.jpg



Can he enter an early guilty plea for this kind of offence?

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Not sure if putting your head into someones face is the same as a headbut , should not be but not sure how the disciplinary see it

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icon_lol.gif he got the situation wrong but it was defiantly a head butt after dorn had decided not to square up.

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Quote: dubairl "

Was it a defiant headbutt , or definitely a headbutt sweetheart ?

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media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf
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1-3 games, depends whether it is considered a "light contact" or "full contact" headbutt
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf
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1-3 games, depends whether it is considered a "light contact" or "full contact" headbutt


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Quote: p1nkyw1nky1 "Was it a defiant headbutt , or definitely a headbutt sweetheart ?'"


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He won't get a ban Leeds run the RFL don't they?

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It was a football headbutt not a rugby headbutt. The over-reaction to it, starting from the Sky clowns downwards, has been immense. I don't know what's happened to our game.

Still surprised Sinfield did it, but should be Grade B, light contact headbutting which is 1-2 match ban minus early guilty plea. Grade C would be full contact with head 2-3 matches. Grade E is full contact with head in violent aggressive manner (4-8 matches no EGP) but anyone who actually knows what a headbutt is wouldn't charge him with that.

He should get grade B, probably will get grade C, and there'll be 30-page threads on how outrageous it all is that he's ever allowed to play again.

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Dorn had unfairly won a penalty by holding on to Sinfield who took umbrage at this and the verbals from Dorn as he took a step towards Sinfield with his face extended. Sinfield inexcusably pushed his face into Dorn's face not quite in the classic head butt style. It was more of a Aussie kiss and Dorn in his after match interview showed that no damage was done. Sinfield will plead guilty with no wicked intent and previous good record so should get a lower ban which could still be 4 matches as use of the head is frowned on.

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Quote: craigizzard "It was a football headbutt not a rugby headbutt. The over-reaction to it, starting from the Sky clowns downwards, has been immense. I don't know what's happened to our game.
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Aye. Fans claim it's gone soft an it's been sanitised but yet whenever anything remotely resembling "biff" happens on a RL field the same fans who complain the games gone soft are the first ones to get sand in their gash over it.

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Grade C - EGP 2 match ban

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Good god the foaming at the mouth if he only gets 2 matches and is free to play in the CC semi will be at unprecedented levels from other fans.

Btw wouldn't argue at all if he did get 3 matches (seems around the right mark to me).

It won't ruin the season as a whole as he'd have to get a very unlikely 7/8 games which would roll into the playoffs......but the CC could be a different story.

If somehow he got 5 matches he'd miss Wembley IF we get there.

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It wasn't a proper headbutt, but it was certainly aggressive. I'd expect 4-6 matches. Ignoring the hyperbole and mouth-frothing, it was a very stupid thing to do. Most unexpected from him, and very disappointing. Whatever happened to provoke it, Dorn gets a bit of credit for his reaction. No girly rolling around and histrionics to the ref.

Might have cost us a point tonight (although I thought Cas were more than good value for one). Could cost more with a semi final looming.

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Quote: El Diablo "It wasn't a proper headbutt, but it was certainly aggressive. I'd expect 4-6 matches. Ignoring the hyperbole and mouth-frothing, it was a very stupid thing to do. Most unexpected from him, and very disappointing. Whatever happened to provoke it, Dorn gets a bit of credit for his reaction. No girly rolling around and histrionics to the ref.

Might have cost us a point tonight (although I thought Cas were more than good value for one). Could cost more with a semi final looming.'"



I think you have gave a good balanced post. I would moan if he got less than 3, personally would say 4 with a game off for good behaviour.

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