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...against the Aussies, surely ? He's the Melbourne regular there: a good enough endorsement for most I would suggest.

Sinfield is a great club captain and deserves the accolades at SL level....but he aint an international class stand off, not when talking about the truly international world class teams in any serious competition (Aus and NZ)..

His kicking aint even exceptional these days

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Quote: nantwichexile "...against the Aussies, surely ? He's the Melbourne regular there


So if Sinfeild goes, who takes the kicking duties? He may not be the best kicker in the world in open play, but he's the best we have.

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Hasn't sinfield been playing scrum half and Chase playing stand off?

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Quote: bewildered "Hasn't sinfield been playing scrum half and Chase playing stand off?'"


Either way...Widdop SO and Chase SH.

...and doesn't Chase kick for Cas ? Westwood too has been a recent place kicker (not the best admittedly)

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Quote: nantwichexile "...against the Aussies, surely ? He's the Melbourne regular there

Don't know why you are picking on Sinfield who was IMO England's 2nd best player yesterday. He had a hand in several tries including the vital last passes for 3 of them and was a creative link throughout.

The disappointment was Chase who had a poor game or did you miss that as well?

With his proven top level kicking ability for you to suggest he is now not a good enough kicker after missing a couple shows very poor judgement.

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Can't we call up Hardaker to play at SO for this one? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: GCM1980 "Can't we call up Hardaker to play at SO for this one?
Aston Wilson and Ryan Hall in the centres.

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Quote: GCM1980 "Can't we call up Hardaker to play at SO for this one?
Nah...we've got to give the Aussies a sporting chance icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Don't know why you are picking on Sinfield who was IMO England's 2nd best player yesterday. He had a hand in several tries including the vital last passes for 3 of them and was a creative link throughout.

The disappointment was Chase who had a poor game or did you miss that as well?

With his proven top level kicking ability for you to suggest he is now not a good enough kicker after missing a couple shows very poor judgement.'"



eusa_silenced.gif ....still think Sinfield aint good enough against the Aussies. Chase has that potential unpredictable brilliance factor. You can't really say that about Sinfield.

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Quote: craigizzard "Aston Wilson and Ryan Hall in the centres.'"


Nah again...neither of them has enough antipodean blood running through their veins commensurate to what we appear to need to represent England these days. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "

That maybe but he is the best we have available for now. Sinfield has that proven (not potential) reliable allround creative ability together with solid cool awareness. You can't say that about Chase! He was one of our best pklayers yesterday. You can't say that about Chase!

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I think if either half gets dropped then it should be Chase based on the performances so far. He seems to be running round like a headless chicken with no idea what he wants to do when he gets it.

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I dont understand why sinfield gets slated so much. he is doing very well considering he is being put in positions that are foreign to him. For starters he is getting played at scrum half which i dont think Ive ever seen him play for Leeds. The second issue is he was always dealing with the play the ball. This is not part of his game and he needs instead to be the first or second reciever to allow him to distribute the ball. Why wasnt Roby at the PTB?

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Chase on the bench would be a better option would it not?
ad some zip from the bench that I think is missed from burrow/robinson.

real shame about burrow, I thought he could be the difference

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I think if either half gets dropped then it should be Chase based on the performances so far. He seems to be running round like a headless chicken with no idea what he wants to do when he gets it.'"


Pobably difficult when you playing out of position, he won MOS as a stand off!!!

Lets get everyone back to their natural positions, if we gonna play Sinfield play him at loose forward, if we gonna play Chase play him at stand off the position he won man of steel in.

Why don't we have a natural scrum half in the team such as Myler, Lomax or even Brough?

IMO Brough at 7 Chase at 6 would be a better option than Chase at 7 and Sinfield at 6, Heighington hasnt exactly set the world on fire so would have Sinfield back at 13 had we had options at 7, would have then had Sinfield, Roby and Brough for open play kicking and Sinfield and Brough for goal kicking.

Quite a simple game really if everyone plays in their best positions and if we gonna be beating the Aussies we will need some flair cos IMO won't do it up the middle. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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