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| after a very difficult year with injuries and form our greatest most successful team is going to need some major strengthening over the next couple of years !
webb not the player he was and a possible move to union in japan next year
donalds been a great player but now retired
senior maybe 1 last year
delaney hes ok but nothing special like a centre should be
hall best winger in superleague
mcguire lets hope he is the same player when he comes back if so good for a few years yet
burrow needs to find a new dimension to his game and put more players into gaps and not just duck under tackles,a 1 trick pony some opposition fans call him
leuluai does ok but needs to make more meters
buderus only 1 more year with him when hes on his game the best hooker in sl
peacock like mcguire lets hope he comes back the same player because hes carried our pack
jjb does not make the breaks like he used to do and could do with jjb of old
ablet we miss him when he does not play so must be a better player than most of us give him credit for
sinfield could anyone imagine us without him
ali very lucky to get a new contract probably his last year
kirke he is a salary cap squad man ( you get what you pay for )
eastwood pity hes going home could of been 1 of the best !
diskin never got back to his form of 2007
smith lets get him fit and we should see him back to his best
bailey needs to make more yards but he gets under the opponents skin and rattles them
clarkson our find of the season
burgess needs to improve to many mistakes in him
so what for the future !
ambler and pitts look ok and again lets see how watkins comes back after injury and mcshane is being linked with a season long loan to salford and if he can improve his defence he will be back to replace buderus.bjb had a good year at quins so lets hope he gets his chance.are coady,bush and amor good enough for sl ?
so this time next year with the possible departures of webb,senior,leuluai buderus and ali to go with donald and eastwood this year thats alot of our salary cap freed lets hope we spend the money and have a new decade as good as the old one !
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| Right, before the pr*cks amongst us start suggesting that this is a knee-jerk reaction to a defeat by Wigan, let me tell you that this is just my opinion.
I honestly couldn't give a rats a$$, but I'm bored so I thought I would offer up my opinion on the squad as I see it. Right or wrong, that's all it is.
Our team has been super-human for 3 years, but...
Webb - We used to refer to him as Superman. Used to!
Donald - One of the best wingers Leeds have ever had. Will take some replacing
Senior - I think it's been one year too many in the centres for our Keef, but will still be great in the 2nd row
Delaney - Shocking. Slow, can't pass, doesn't pass, can't side-step, can't make space for his winger. Bad signing
Hall - Was the best winger in SL for one year, largely due to playing outside a then great centre
McGuire - Was getting some of his great form back before injury, but this nasty injury really worries me
Burrow - Not a patch on his former self. Still got a reasonable kicking game, but there are many better SHs in SL today
Leuluai - Still makes the hard yards and big hits. Bags of life left in him
Buderus - Glimpses of brilliance, but is a bit too niggly and gives away lots of silly penalties
Peacock - The best signing of the last 10 years. Hope we get to see him play as well once more.
JJB - Awesome last year - indeed, my player of the year, but slightly disappointing this year
Ablett - Strong and versatile - 17 Abletts could win SL
Sinfield - Captain fantastic. Player of the year for me. Does he need to be the best #13 in the world?
Lauitiiti - At times lazy, certainly at the PTB, but remains incredibly talented
Kirke - A good squad player, but for his size he could and should be so much better
Eastwood - Glimpses of why he is in the NZ team, but injury ravaged and, at times, unmotivated due to home sickness
Diskin - At times has looked as good as Buderus, but isn't the player of 4 and 5 years ago
Smith - Always played better than I ever gave him credit for but seems to have lost some pace recently
Bailey - His really good games are few and far between. Annoyingly niggly, which some people think is good!
Clarkson - Looks very promising indeed, but understandably still has much to learn
Burgess - I genuinely wish we had his brother!
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| Quote: Luke Leaner "Right, before the pr*cks amongst us start suggesting that this is a knee-jerk reaction to a defeat by Wigan, let me tell you that this is just my opinion....'"
I'm not a pr*ck but to be fair that does read like a major knee-jerk
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| Quote: Omar Little "I'm not a pr*ck but to be fair that does read like a major knee-jerk
I'd prefer to think of it as a 'balanced' opinion
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| Quote: Luke Leaner "Right, before the pr*cks amongst us start suggesting that this is a knee-jerk reaction to a defeat by Wigan, let me tell you that this is just my opinion.
I honestly couldn't give a rats a$$, but I'm bored so I thought I would offer up my opinion on the squad as I see it. Right or wrong, that's all it is.
Our team has been super-human for 3 years, but...
Webb - We used to refer to him as Superman. Used to!
Donald - one of the best wingers Leeds have ever had. Will take some replacing
Senior - One year too many in the centres, but will be great in the 2nd row
Delaney - Shocking. Slow, can't pass, doesn't pass, can't side-step, can't make space for his winger
Hall - was the best winger in SL for one year, playing outside a great centre
McGuire - Was getting some of his form back before injury, but this nasty injury worries me
Burrow - not a patch on his former self. Still got a reasonable kicking game, but there are many better SHs in SL
Leuluai - Still makes the hard yards and big hits
Buderus - glimpses of brilliance, but is too niggly and gives away lots of silly penalties
Peacock - the best signing of the last 10 years
JJB - awesome last year, disappointing this year
Ablett - strong and versatile
Sinfield - captain fantastic. Does he need to be the best #13 in the world?
Lauitiiti - Lazy but incredibly talented
Kirke - good squad player, but for his size he could be so much better
Eastwood - glimpses of why he is in the NZ team, but injury ravaged and, at times, unmotivated
Diskin - at times has looked as good as Buderus, but sill isn't the player he was 4 and 5 years ago
Smith - Always played better than I ever gave him credit for but seems to have lost some pace recently
Bailey - his good games are few and far between. Niggly, which some people think is a good trait to have!
Clarkson - looks promising, but still has much to learn
Burgess - I wish we had his brother!'"
Just about sums it up perfectly, except .....re Delaney, big hitter, makes good hard yards, would IMO make a great back row, but only an average centre.
re Kirke, totally agree......this lad has the size, a good offload and can hit hard, but doesn't do it very often. Seems to lack confidence?
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| I'd like to think that rather than have a massive overhaul at the end of next year, that we'll bring in a couple of new faces this close season, and continue to bring on the promising players like Clarkson, Watkins & BJB and continue our excellent record of producing top quality SL players
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| Strong rumour on our (Salford) board that Sinfield is coming to us next year. Anybody at your end heard anything?
(Don't agree with Hall being the best winger in Super League, I think Jodie Broughton is better )
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| LL makes a pretty fair assessment I'd say. I rate Bailey more highly but think he becomes a bit of a luxury once we're lacking others capable of making ground. Kirke is too big - more precisely, his centre of gravity's too high - meaning that he's easily toppled. No amount of training will overcome this IMO.
This may seem harsh to some although I'd add that most other teams are equally flawed.
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| Quote: dann_salford "Strong rumour on our (Salford) board that Sinfield is coming to us next year. '"
Why would he?
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Fletcher: Course, he sees 'imself as an authority on curry, he does, on account of where he was stationed in the army.
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| Quote: dann_salford "Strong rumour on our (Salford) board that Sinfield is coming to us next year. Anybody at your end heard anything?
(Don't agree with Hall being the best winger in Super League, I think Jodie Broughton is better
That'd be Warrington you'd be meaning?
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| Quote: Era of the Biff "Why would he?'"
POSSIBLY:
Higher pay, change of position, change of scenery, coaching, age, salary cap issues at Leeds.
I don't know really, I was hoping you could tell me
You could as the same about Patten, Wild, Paleaaesina ect. They've all come from better teams.
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| lets see who gets picked for the england squad as i wouldnt be too upset if we only end up with hall called up as the squad needs a big rest
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| So who do you chaps see as replacements from other Super League clubs? Which players are lined up as incoming?
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| Quote: Armchair "So who do you chaps see as replacements from other Super League clubs? Which players are lined up as incoming?'"
Shenton and McCarthy-Scarsbrook. Oh, wait...
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| Quote: dann_salford "Strong rumour on our (Salford) board that Sinfield is coming to us next year. Anybody at your end heard anything?
(Don't agree with Hall being the best winger in Super League, I think Jodie Broughton is better
ye your right you will see him when we play you in the league and if we draw you in the cc you might see him twice
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