Does anyone know the attendance on Friday night? Not on Rhinos website, I don't think it was announced in the stadium and I've not been able to find it anywhere so far.
The Super League website doesn't seem to quote attendances for any matches even though there is a place for it ("ATT"icon_wink.gif on each result page. I'd be very interested to know the attendances for all this weekend's matches, especially Toronto v Saints.
Are things that back that the RFL/Super League are deliberately not publishing attendances?

It was announced at the game on Friday: 12,100 ish I think.

12000 plus ,agree with you re other attendances some are an embarrassment ,assume like you that RFL not keen on publishing them

Thought it was a poor crowd considering it was a big game

A mix of a few poor seasons on the pitch and the disruption of the stands will have taken its toll on attendance figures IMO will take a while and hopefully a decent few years on the pitch to get them back.

There were a lot of empty seats that are usually filled by regulars so asuming they are ST holders, I wonder if this Coronovirus thing has had any effect?

Throw in the weather etc and I’d say that also had an effect.

That was why x2 of our party sacked it off anyway.

Possibly the season starting too early ?

Id been ill since Wed so decided not to go. The comfort of my living room, TV and the central heating played a big part. We have 4 seats in Extentia but i was surprised how empty that stand looked on TV.

Sods law, the wind and rain died down and temp wasnt too bad. Missed a right game.

You can dress it up anyway you want but 12k for Wire is a pretty big drop. That would usually be a 15k crowd plus easy.

It's all about the product on the pitch, the last few seasons bound to have an affect at some point.

A fair few clubs seem to be running with crowds 15-20% down on a few years ago and not only those whose W/L ratios have nosedived.

Extentia seating (thats where I sit) was very sp indeed.

Attendances seem well down from the licensing era at a lot of clubs, which is odd as one of the reasons for scrapping licensing and going to promotion/relegation was to increase attendances. Has promotion/relegation failed? If so should we go back to licensing?

Imo promotion and relegation in its current form should be scrapped. Its not worked. Needs a lot consultation to find the way forward but relegation has too many negatives.

I don’t think P&R is the reason for lower attendances. I think it has much more to do with the economy than P&R. I know I’ve cut back on the amount of away games I go to over recent years, mostly for costs reasons, partly for time. I’m sure other people are the same across the game.

There’s also the issue of how watchable the games are. I’ve always maintained that I don’t buy into this rose tinted nonsense that somehow the game was much higher quality 20 years ago, a simple look at how lackadaisical and soft defences were soon puts that argument to bed. However there’s no doubting it was better to watch in general.

So I think those 2 factors combined are a major issue for the sport and aren’t something easily fixed. Another issue however is the number of games and the number of times you play each opponent. It doesn’t make it special if you know you’re likely to play Wigan 3/4 times this season for instance. Especially when that’s year after year.
I think we need to cut the number of games which would then force clubs to market themselves and pack games out. It would also do us a world of good when it comes around to internationals and our players are knackered from being at clubs with much smaller squads and playing far more games than their Aussie/Kiwi counterparts.

Having said that I’d still scrap P&R. I think it’s massively destabilising to the sport as proved by how much the threat of it has set Leeds back by 5 years at a guess? Without the threat of P&R we could have been developing youngsters more and not making stop gap signings like Thompson, Donaldson, Evans etc

Good post. Agree with much of that. Duplicate fixtures are a major negative for me. As is the season starting in Jan. Thurs night games also are a no from me. Usually very poor turnout for them. Too many Friday night games as well is not good for press coverage.