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A lot of thoughts on whether Mac should go, I was interested in what the majority are thinking at the moment, for me he goes at the end of the year unless we get top 4 (or the CC)

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Quote: leedsnsouths "A lot of thoughts on whether Mac should go, I was interested in what the majority are thinking at the moment, for me he goes at the end of the year unless we get top 4 (or the CC)'"

Come on mate that's never gonna happen with this set up surely you can see that?
It's not a dig btw just to be clear im genuinely surprised anyone could think we have a gnats pube of a chance of top 4 or CC.

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Leeds coach Brian McDermott said: "There is no simple answer. As crazy as it might sound, I didn't think we were that bad in the first half.

"We were not miles off, I just think Castleford were white hot. You can pick fault in some of their tries but they were brilliant."

Is he kidding himself ?. What did he say at half time, expected them to come out & give it a go not do exactly the same.

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No, he's doing a great job, give him a contract extension

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Come on mate that's never gonna happen with this set up surely you can see that?
It's not a dig btw just to be clear im genuinely surprised anyone could think we have a gnats pube of a chance of top 4 or CC.'"


I dont expect it will happen but it is still possible and I dont think changing coach mid season would do much anyway, unless we could get someone really good. So far I cant see us finishing above Wigan Wire or Cas, but Im not convinced by Saints or Hull to the extent that I would write us off completely (though Catalan are starting better than usual).
As for CC, you could get a freakily lucky run like Wigan had in 2013 and end up playing rubbish teams all the way through and a team who doesnt perform under pressure in the final.

Will just point out, Wigan lost by 60 against Wakefield last year and still won the GF. I really dont think it is, but there is a slim chance that last night will be a blip, I guess we will know more after next week.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "I dont expect it will happen but it is still possible and I dont think changing coach mid season would do much anyway, unless we could get someone really good. So far I cant see us finishing above Wigan Wire or Cas, but Im not convinced by Saints or Hull to the extent that I would write us off completely (though Catalan are starting better than usual).
As for CC, you could get a freakily lucky run like Wigan had in 2013 and end up playing rubbish teams all the way through and a team who doesnt perform under pressure in the final.

Will just point out, Wigan lost by 60 against Wakefield last year and still won the GF. I really dont think it is, but there is a slim chance that last night will be a blip, I guess we will know more after next week.'"

Wigan virtually had an u19's side out weren't already on a downward spiral & hadn't suffered numerous humiliations over the last 14mths.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Wigan virtually had an u19's side out weren't already on a downward spiral & hadn't suffered numerous humiliations over the last 14mths.'"


I would have got rid at the end of last year and thrown the cheque book at Cas for Powell but as that didnt happen, I dont think switching coach after 4 games is a good idea.
Look at Huddersfield, they got rid of Anderson mid season and were closer to relegation than we were.

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Not interested in Huddersfield mate this Squad could & should be producing better even without challanging for Trophies or a top 4 spot.
The sooner change comes the better.

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Get him out and now.

This sounds like an ill-informed, knee-jerk reaction to last night but it's not. It is an opinion formed over the last few seasons about a coach that doesn't possess the essential skill set needed to turn a team in decline around. He lets personality clashes with players dictate his team choices and sometimes has a clueless approach to his bench.

We would do just as well/terrible without a coach all together so save his wage and put it towards the 'Widdop' fund.

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I think mcdermotts time at Leeds should be close to ending. We do have a poor quality squad, but we are still not getting the best from them.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



I think Mac should be a part of the club for a long time to come. I have never been part of Mac out. I do feel we need fresh ideas especially in attack. I think Mac will move to the side at the end of the year. Ivan Cleary would be genius. But that's not happening. I fully support GH and Mac.

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Quote: sgtwilko "I think Mac should be a part of the club for a long time to come. I have never been part of Mac out. I do feel we need fresh ideas especially in attack. I think Mac will move to the side at the end of the year. Ivan Cleary would be genius. But that's not happening. I fully support GH and Mac.'"

In what capacity can you see Mc.D still contributing if/when he is relieved of his Coaching duties mate?

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: RHINO-MARK "In what capacity can you see Mc.D still contributing if/when he is relieved of his Coaching duties mate?'"

Mac is a man of total integrity. A true leader of men. I unlike others don't think I know better than Mac and GH when it comes to coaching and running an RL organization.

But if you are pushing me for a response? Maybe working the door at the long bar?

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After the joke of last year and then the utter failure of the game against Cas, followed by unbelievable comments from the coach after the game. He is clueless and the once might Leeds Rhino's are a joke. I have watched Leeds for 40 years and have never seen such a performance, I saw us getting hammered at Central Park and in Play off Final in 1995. So what are we going to do about it. Do we carry on writing on here, but turn up to the games. I believe we should still support the team but next Friday we should are feelings towards the coach in some way so the Board get the message that we have had enough. I open this up for discussion or are we just going to moan and do nothing.

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Quote: sgtwilko "Mac is a man of total integrity. A true leader of men. I unlike others don't think I know better than Mac and GH when it comes to coaching and running an RL organization.

But if you are pushing me for a response? Maybe working the door at the long bar?'"

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It's not a case of knowing better mate it's recognising that whatever both are doing is no longer working especially on the Coaching front.
Wrt GH personally i think he's lost that ruthless edge that played a huge part of our success. icon_thumb.gif

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