I can not believe players are smiling after a drubbing like that me personally if i had got beaten like that i would be gutted but it is just a pay cheque to some what do you say zac ?

He'll be ready to rip it up big stylee down at Bigg Market this evening.

Totally agree. Golding, Briscoe. Not too bothered. They are garbage and will be out of the side soon. McGuire in particular laughing and joking with Matty Smith. That did it for me.

As a HKR fan not coming across to be patronizing because we are tripe so i would have no room to come across smug like other teams fans seem to embrace your downfall but watching tonight your team keep having ago they ain't throwing the towel in and aching like spoilt brats and they keep their discipline players like singleton keinhorst jjb are still running their blood to water so effort can't be questioned and they seem to still believe in what BMc is telling them, in my humble opinion i just think you are lacking so much confidence it is crippling you, something will click and will come good at some point

We are poor at the moment but I agree with your assessment, they don't throw in the towel. Too many knee jerk reactions after watching Leeds lose too often from some, but it is hard to watch. For mine we have to bite down and stop calling for all and sundry to be sacked. After the highs of last season its our turn to struggle, but this team and coach deserve the chance to turn it around.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.

Bottom of the table and rooted there....with no sign of a win......senior players laughing at the end of the match today!! How much of a chance to do you want to give them exactly?

But at least you did better than last week. Your players were probably just pleased with their improvement.

As a non gloating Wigan fan i respect your assessment of those Leeds players but from what i saw and have seen so far this season, Singleton a couple of years ago had a lot of potential but has just turned into an up the middle overweight lump who doesn't offer much other than the occasional 'big hit' JJB is a difficult one, his passion can't be questioned for the Leeds club but as a player his best days were behind him about 3 seasons ago, A Peacock, Sinfield legend he isn't, has been a good player in his own right but if Leeds are relying on him to be a leader they will fall short. McGuire has just turned into a joke for me, His game has completely disappeared and his attitude on the field is certainly not one of a leader of men, his petulance is astounding. Keinhorst is the one shining light. I said it on our board a few months ago of how underrated he is, it must be frustrating for him because he must know he is playing well but because he is one of the lesser known 'names' at the Rhinos he knows he will be out of the team when players return regardless. I could say pretty much the same about most of the Wigan players and coach but we won and this is the Leeds board

It's frustrating to see! Luckily I couldn't go today but think of the thousands of Leeds fans that went today, we played well for about 20 mins if that of the whole game, paid to watch that rubbish! The only positive I can think of is that they got to watch the class game before ours!

Pretty accurate assessment CW , cant disagree with anything there .

Spot on with Keinhorst , massively improved player .

They were probably smiling because they get to play a sport they love for a living in front of thousands of people each week rather than have to go to eek out a living in some dead end "real job".

But at the minute they are doing a job, there is no way I would be smiling if I did a job at my workplace. It's an embarrassment to the club and they should be ashamed!

And massively going to be dumped on when Moon and Ablett return unfortunately. I hate seeing good players get stifled because they aren't one of the 'local lads' or on the most money. It happens a lot at Wigan and will happen with Jimmy.