FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > Time to change the coach.
57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain600No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



1) Sutcliffe is not a half back. He should be at loose whilst Ward is missing.
2) Burrow is ineffective. Shouldn't have been made captain.
3) Galloway can not tackle below the neck. But has started every game.
4) He stifles the development of Singleton, Keinhorst etc by only playing them when he's forced to.
5) He doesn't pick players on form.
6) He runs players into the ground. Ablett last year.
7) He doesn't use all of his bench. Instead preferring to flog players or stick with Burrow.
icon_cool.gif It is now evident that Sinfield's brain and Peacock's brawn led the team.

McDermott out.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Sick of hearing Sutcliffe at loose, please stop. What the hell are they seeing in his performances to suggest he would improve in the 13 shirt? He has shown nothing of the sort. Infact his defence shown so far suggests he can do nothing of the sort.

His performances are not worthy of a starting spot at present, regardless of position. He does however have utility value which might prove useful without a dedicated position.

As for the coach, he did his job with great players to utilise. He isn't the type of coach, and never has been, to develop players and see a club through a transisttion period. Look at his Broncos days. Whether he has learned himself time will tell, but his reluctance for proper assistants, and continuous repeating of mistakes, suggests his arrogance fits in with the complacency throughout the club. Change that and who knows.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman18060No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



i agree with Gotcha - I think he was in right place at the right time.

I see young players not fulfilling their potential - Baldwinson is another compare his development to that of Ben Currie at Warrington.

He is far too stubborn and incapable of taking criticism - his reaction to questions about his sub strategy see him in his true light.

The club needs the next Trent Robinson - an up and coming Aussie assistant who can change up the culture at the club and get some proper focus on youth recruitment and development.

RankPostsTeam
International Star662
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021Mar 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



If & it's a big IF we need a change in coach.

I personally don't think the club needs an up & coming Aussie assistant who can change the culture of the club. We will need the best person out there no matter what nationality, colour, creed, relgion or sexual orientation. All because someone is a Aussie does not been they are the answer.

People who think Sutcliffe should be at loose forward are quite frankly deluded. Sutcliffe is imo the victim of circumstances. The next man in Sinfield's boots, his senior half back partner injured(Mcguire), returning from injury, playing with either a even less experienced half in Lilley or Burrow who his best suited these days to a impact role of the bench or water carrier.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member15309No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2020Apr 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I thought Sutcliffe was the real deal? touted as Leeds' and England's captain for years to come, was it Schoey who suggested the England team should be built around him for the next 10 years he was that good?

Was it all a bit premature then? i have to admit, i haven't seen as much of him as you lot, but i can't see what he offers more than any other young lad in any other team.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member22289
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Fieldheadrhino "If & it's a big IF we need a change in coach.

I personally don't think the club needs an up & coming Aussie assistant who can change the culture of the club. We will need the best person out there no matter what nationality, colour, creed, relgion or sexual orientation. All because someone is a Aussie does not been they are the answer.

People who think Sutcliffe should be at loose forward are quite frankly deluded. Sutcliffe is imo the victim of circumstances. The next man in Sinfield's boots, his senior half back partner injured(Mcguire), returning from injury, playing with either a even less experienced half in Lilley or Burrow who his best suited these days to a impact role of the bench or water carrier.'"


Agree with all of this. The over-riding 'quality' any new coach must have is an ability to work on the cheap.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach15864No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



People who say that McDermott can't make transition done remember the team he inherited with top players leaving and returning. He managed the loss of club legends senior Webb lauititi. And still delivered titles and cups. They're have been some bumps in the road like the start of 2011 but the team has pulled through. judging the team at the moment would be foolish.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2322
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Sutcliffe returned from a serious injury and after twenty minutes of game 1 had to do his and McGuire's job.
Give him some time at HB with McGuire and I think he will improve .


As for the coach ,this is the first season he's had to really do his job. He can no longer rely on Sinfield to cover his inadequate game plans or baffling bench use.
He can't just flog players into injury like Ablett,Delaney and now Ferres . He needs to be using players like singo,Garbutt,keinhorst ,baldwinson etc.
At least Mullally is getting a chance but will he get dropped unfairly for a clearly struggling player or to let one of the coach's flogging boys back in as soon as they can stand ?.

We have had 4-6 players missing for virtually every game.not helped by the coach's unexplained dropping of two props or Garbutt suspension.
We still have McGuire,Ward,Delaney,Hall out along with Briscoe and Falloon still not match fit .

I think we have a lot of improvement to come but the players need to be more organised in defence, massively improve the 5th tackle options (McGuire and Lilley ) and our the effort in for support play, runners and looking for offloads.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain600No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Face facts guys. Cas has 8 players missing. We were missing just two. We need a Brown or Brough. And a new coach. It's that simple

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2322
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Face facts guys. Cas has 8 players missing. We were missing just two. We need a Brown or Brough. And a new coach. It's that simple'"



McGuire,Hall, Ward and for some unknown reason we went without Garbutt and Singleton .


I'm not saying it's why we lost but it one factor along with poor execution,no game plan, no leadership and poor bench use.

RankPostsTeam
International Star990No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



We do not need a Danny Brough, we don't need to introduce personalities like that into a team that is trying to find its identity.

If we need anything we need a Dunneman type, oh and we need some patience. Not saying Mac is infallible, but if we were going to replace him it'd have to be with the right guy, change for changes sake isn't the answer.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman18060No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Fieldheadrhino "If & it's a big IF we need a change in coach.

I personally don't think the club needs an up & coming Aussie assistant who can change the culture of the club. We will need the best person out there no matter what nationality, colour, creed, relgion or sexual orientation. All because someone is a Aussie does not been they are the answer.

People who think Sutcliffe should be at loose forward are quite frankly deluded. Sutcliffe is imo the victim of circumstances. The next man in Sinfield's boots, his senior half back partner injured(Mcguire), returning from injury, playing with either a even less experienced half in Lilley or Burrow who his best suited these days to a impact role of the bench or water carrier.'"


It needs someone who is working within the NRL - that is the superior competition and where all the innovations are in our game. To suggest otherwise is futile IMO - they don't have to be Australian but they also don't need to be John Kear. The culture needs to change up somehow.

RankPostsTeam
International Star990No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



In all honesty, it kind of feels like we are trying to follow what Wigan did a couple of years ago, with a lot of antipodeans trying to stay competitive. (Granted theirs were of a higher quality, but they fell on them lucky).

I'd much rather follow what Wigan are doing now, for all Wanes faults, I like his next man up trust the youngsters mentality, supplemented by a few choice signings.

We have too many Aussies at the moment and only a couple (Moon, Cuthbo) who are top quality.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2330
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



JESUS , Garbutt was idolised on here a few weeks ago icon_eek.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star990No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Garbutt and Delaney I wouldn't mind keeping, but then that's only 4 in a 17, as opposed to the 6 we are likely to field when everyone is fit.

If I rephrase, Moon and Cuthbo are the only two I don't think we could find/develop a same quality replacement for.

57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


6.02685546875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
22m
Film game
karetaker
5727
54m
Rumours and signings v9
MadDogg
28896
Recent
Ground Improvements
Redscat
186
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40782
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
Whatamidoing
187
Recent
IMG Score
Bullseye
82
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63258
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
51s
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63258
1m
745 Game
Bobtownrhino
5
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
1m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
leeds owl
20
2m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
2m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
The Avenger
35
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
47
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1024
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
634
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1357
England's Women Demolish The W..
1185
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1423
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1469
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2210
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2022
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2730
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2232