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We've played our get out of jail free cards and hopefully the "blip" will be overcome depending on fitness i'd go with..
Hardaker
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Moon
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Cuthbertson

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



If Burrow is fit then I'd just revert to the old style of Burrow at 9. Yes it has its flaws but we've also won trophies with him starting there so better than messing about hoping something else will work.

If he isn't fit then my left field suggestion is Moon at hooker with someone filling in at left centre, Ablett, Keinhorst (if his eye turns out ok) or Handley/Briscoe.

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Quote: ThePrinter "If Burrow is fit then I'd just revert to the old style of Burrow at 9. Yes it has its flaws but we've also won trophies with him starting there so better than messing about hoping something else will work.'"


Gets my vote. I don't see how we can do anything other than look for some serious performances in all four - hopefully - remaining games. This would apply just as much even if the LLS wasn't at stake. That's assuming Burrow's recovered sufficiently, of course. If he hasn't, we should save him for the semi/GF rather than gamble on him in the hope of a LLS.

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If Watkins, Keinhorst and Burrow are missing I would go for the following:
Hardaker
Handley
Briscoe
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
McGuire
Cuthbertson
R. Ward
Peacock
Ablett
Ward
Delaney
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Quote: chapylad "If Watkins, Keinhorst and Burrow are missing I would go for the following

I agree with this, but would start Singleton instead of Cuthbertson.

However, I think Watkins will be fit and will play, which means Handley dropping out.

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I think we've got to go as strong as possible, we've got to try and get a bit of fluidity back into our attack and that means playing the players we'll play in the semi and hopefully the final.

So:
1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Garbutt
9. Lilley
10. Peacock
11. Ablett
12. Delaney
13. Cuthbertson

14. Burrow
15. Leuluai
16. Ward
17. Singleton

I'd start with Lilley at 9, if he looks like he's struggling we can bring Burrow off the bench. But I still think Burrow is most effective when coming off the bench rather than starting.

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If Burrow plays this week, then it is out of panic and rushing him. His wife was clear the other week when she said he would not be able to play until the Huddersfield game earliest. She was clear it was a grade 2 tear, and if you do look that up, the time frame would suggest what she said.

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Quote: Him "I think we've got to go as strong as possible, we've got to try and get a bit of fluidity back into our attack and that means playing the players we'll play in the semi and hopefully the final.

So

On reflection I'd agree with this: I said at the time Lilley didn't look too bad at dummy half; he certainly sped up the ruck compared to Sinfield. R.Ward is obviously not in consideration and giving Lilley another run is going to be less disruptive than my other suggestion of moving Moon to SO and keeping Sinfield at dummy half.... S.Ward to start though with Delaney on the bench.
It seems a shame we cannot somehow utilise Handley during this mounting injuries issue.....and for sure IF Watkins doesn't make this one then I would def bring Handley into the threequarters rather than Ablett....who has to stay in the forwards !!
If it's too soon for Burrow then maybe R.Ward should be given another chance to stake his claim from the bench??

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Hardaker
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sinfield McGuire
Garbutt R Ward Peacock
Ablett S Ward
Cuthbertson

Lilley Delaney Singleton Leuluai

Or

Hardaker
Handley Briscoe Moon Hall
Sinfield McGuire
Garbutt R Ward Peacock
Ablett S Ward
Cuthbertson

Lilley Delaney Singleton Leuluai.

I am lead to believe that Burrow won't be back until next week. Sinfield needs to be in his six position and we need a proper nine too.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



I am totally at a loss to see what Robbie Ward or Lilley has done at this level to suggest they have what it takes to deliver a performance required to win a LLS or GF.

Mac is totally correct to go with players who have proven they can lift to the intensity required. Injuries aside Lilley, Ward and Walters should be running the kicking tee at best as this point.

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Quote: sgtwilko "I am totally at a loss to see what Robbie Ward or Lilley has done at this level to suggest they have what it takes to deliver a performance required to win a LLS or GF.

Mac is totally correct to go with players who have proven they can lift to the intensity required. Injuries aside Lilley, Ward and Walters should be running the kicking tee at best as this point.'"


Quite.

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Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall

Sinfield
McGuire

Garbutt
Lilley
Peacock
S Ward
Ablett
Cuthbertson

Leuluai
Singleton
Delaney
Burrow/ Walters .

We need Sinfield back at 6 for his game management. He can still help out at hooker ,same for Burrow.
I think Lilley did enough to keep his spot at hooker and we have no one else without moving people out of position . He added speed to the ruck and didn't let anyone down.

Really need the backs to get stuck in for attack and make good decisions in defence .

Sinfield controlling things at 6 should mean we have a kicking game on the 5th.

Must win game IMO, could do with saints beating Wigan too

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Quote: sgtwilko "I am totally at a loss to see what Robbie Ward or Lilley has done at this level to suggest they have what it takes to deliver a performance required to win a LLS or GF.

Mac is totally correct to go with players who have proven they can lift to the intensity required. Injuries aside Lilley, Ward and Walters should be running the kicking tee at best as this point.'"


Didn't rookie Ryan Hall get his first GF winner's medal after coming in for Lee Smith to cover Webb's back injury? Or would it have been better to have played JJB there?

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: nantwichexile "Didn't rookie Ryan Hall get his first GF winner's medal after coming in for Lee Smith to cover Webb's back injury? Or would it have been better to have played JJB there?'"


Ah the Wisdom of hindsight!

Totally not the same, Sinfield has played Hooker for England and arguably played his best.

I don't recall JJB being a winger.

Playing at 9 right in the middle is totally different from playing on the fringe.

I'm gonna stick my head on the bloke and say Ward will not be arguable the best hooker of his generation or Lilley the best half. If it happens you can pan me for the next 10 years.

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Burrow needs to play if fit. Either he goes to 7 and Sinny at 9 or vice versa. You can get away with not playing a 6 against Hull KR, but Saints and Catalans worked us out. If Watkins is out then Briscoe needs to play centre with Handley outside him. Ablett, Ward and Delaney is the best back row we have. Keep them in the back row!

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