Looks likley in my opinion that the top 2 will be Saints and Cas and neither will be good enough to win it or even get to the final so alot is going to depend who plays who , i think any of Leeds , Saints, Warrington or Huddersfield will be 2 of the grand finalists although not sure Hudds will ever beat Wire

Sorry in meant Wigan not Saints for grand final contenders

So how come they were good enough to finish 1st and 2nd then ?

This will be the most unpredictable series there has been so far.

Any one of the top 6 can win it. Some you would fancy abit less (saints through injuries, cas on experience) but the teams are so evenly matched that in pressure playoff rugby anything can and will happen.

If I had to put money on it, I'd say it'll be a leeds wigan grand final. (ironically 2 teams that have been losing their league games lately). The way it's going in the table it looks likely they could be on opposite sides of the draw and would fancy both to overcome the likes of hudds, warrington cas and saints (for differing reasons).

Fair point.

Leeds or wigan with wire as an outside chance.be very surprised if any of the other three won it.

Think Saints go under the radar a bit. Think when the likes of Leeds or Wigan play it's always that more of a big deal to whoever the opposition is and their fans in most cases.

Also as I mentioned to a Saints fan the other day. If Saints had beaten us back in Round 5 of the cup and gone onto Wembley it would've probably been Leeds sitting several points clear at the top.

Wouldn't take much for Cas to end up at OT. They can definitely win games at home in the play offs. There is only really Leeds they would fear there. Agreed that we are goosed, just hope we can ruin it for one of the big three on the way down.

That saints side is no chance of winning the GF.no real half backs kills them.with walsh they would have been favourites but with the likes of wellens and turner in the halves come on!

Hudds will always bottle it in the big game,and wire are still a good side but lack the spark briers gave them, and they couldn't win it with him.Cas are a good side but as shown in the cup final have a way to go till they can be considered genuine contenders at the big game.

I may be wrong, but I really can't see past leeds or wigan for the SL crown.

Well if they finish 2nd (very good chance now) it's 2 homes games, so you're right. I could see them winning the first home game (against warrington/hudds?) but then I reckon they'd come unstuck in the final semi (against wigan/leeds?) that's the game that always catches out the ''very good but not quite true contender'' teams.

exactly my thoughts.........has he not replied to you then?.........it's a case of sour grapes with him ..and he talks daft..

I think this OP is off the mark I honestly think any of the top 6 are capable of winning it and I still think there will be plenty more twists and turns along the way even before considering the fact that other teams can easily pick up injuries or suspensions.

After last nights showing,I would not mind Leeds finishing 4th.I wouldn't mind that at all; the worrying factor would be who cops for Blunderwood or Child as the official.

Agree that any of the top 6 could win it. If I had to pick, I'd say Leeds or Wigan. Strangely, I reckon last nights defeats might be a blessing in disguise for both in so far as it takes the LLS pretty much out of the equation meaning that we can both rest players for whom it's needed.

Looks like it will be saints top and cas 2nd to me. I fancy our chances against both of those. Has there ever been a year when neither 1st or 2nd reached the grand final? This will be the year.

2011.