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Any news?

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Definately concussion - hospital as precaution. Took a real blow to head.

Was talking in the dressing room so hopefully not serious.

McShane may miss a few games for that tip.....

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From both BJB's and Leeds Rhinos' tweets - sounds like it might just be concussion.

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I hope so - to see any player leave the field like that fills me with horror.

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McDermott says he's going to be ok.

Unfortunately though for Ali Lauitiiti he looks like being out for a long time with a knee ligament injury.

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Nothing illegal in it according to both of the clubs twitter accounts.

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Was very scary

I'm not a fan of these 'slam/dump' tackles. The back is a very fragile thing

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And a completely unnecessary in the context of the game at the time.

It would have been a straight red in Union, where the dump tackle is banned

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Absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with the tackle. Shame it ended with a concussion for BJB. Glad he's OK.

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Quote: G1 "Absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with the tackle. Shame it ended with a concussion for BJB. Glad he's OK.'"


Within current rules you are spot on G1, if memory serves it only becomes illegal if the legs go above the head or something to that effect.

Thats said, the moment you get an opponent into the position where they are in the air in a horizontal position they are so vulnerable to devasting injury, and thats without the slam ending. Hitting th deck from that position will often mean the back of your head or your back taking the force of it - clearly that will never end well.

This is a game of rugby, not WWE. Its about time the RFL stopped these type of 'tackles'. Just because BJBs legs were not round his ears doesnt mean he couldn't have been very badly hurt.

Yes the recent tackle in the NRL makes this more emotive, but thats no bad thing. Player safety is paramount and that tackle on Friday was potentially a life changer for BJB.

Glad to hear he is ok.

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Admittedly I havent seen the tackle again and didn't have a great view the first time, but I didn't see anything wrong with the tackle at the time.

However, I think there needs to be a proper study done into various types of tackles but especially the ones where players are lifted. The Alex McKinnon incident has shown how close we run to disaster in RL.

The huge increase in the size, weight, speed, strength and power of players in recent years must mean that tackles are much more powerful than before and that the stresses and strains placed on the person being tackled are much greater. I acknowledge that the increased power, strength etc of players puts them in a better position to receive these tackles, but I think we as fans often underestimate the force of these tackles. I posted on here a little while ago that in the Warrington game Jamie Peacock received a ridiculous number (I forget the exact number) of impacts above 9g's.

I don't think we should kneejerk as a sport in response to the McKinnon incident, because I also recognise that accidents will happen in a contact sport, regardless of safeguards, but I don't think we should ignore the effect of the realisation of full time players and the massive increase in sport science.
So I think the RFL and NRL should work together and fund a proper, in-depth, scientific study into various types of tackles and contact in the game.
Then we can move forward and see what can be done to lesson any risk.

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We do need to be careful to over react.

The tackle was fair. I guess if it was a forward that had been tackled then the outcome may have been very different.

If we aren't careful we will end up like football with little physical contact thanks to health & safety boffins

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Quote: Lawrie L "Was very scary

I'm not a fan of these 'slam/dump' tackles. The back is a very fragile thing'"


It was just a big hit. Hard and fair. It is rugby remember.

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Quote: thebloodbath " Hard and fair. '"


Precisely. Always sad to see any player suffer an injury during a game but for them it's just an occupational hazard. Players have to be able to give and take the physical punishment, those that can't don't last long.


Quote: thebloodbath " It is rugby remember.'"


I sometimes question what attracted certain sections of the population to this great game played by the warrior/gladiators of our time.

I liken them to the type who complain about aircraft noise after buying property under the landing lights.

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I also thought on my first and only viewing of the incident that BJB left his feet into the collision. If so, he carries some responsibility.

As I said, my first and only viewing so I could be wrong.

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