Good to see he has stopped making mistakes and giving away penalties in the last 5 minutes - instead he has started scoring tries!!

Pity this point has been overlooked by some posters on here - perhaps a change of spectacles is in order

I noticed.

I also noticed that, yet again, he was the 2nd best hooker for Leeds.

I also noticed the thread about him perhaps leaving at the end of this season. I noticed the complete apathy from our fans at the prospect. It's almost as if it will make little or no difference if he's here, a fitting epitaph to his entire Leeds career.

Here we go......................

To be second best you actually have to play in position the something Buderus didn't do for 60 minutes of the game.

It will interesting to see his defensive stats.

As long as his leaving doesn't have a detremental effect on the side - surely that is more important than the views of a few keyboard warriors.

Let's face it it cannot have a lesser impact than Diskin's departure?

Hmm as good as McShane is playing, his defence is not even comparable to Buderus'.. in my opinion. Depends what criteria you judge who's the better player on I suppose ..

Indeed. Watching the game at the ground Saturday I had McShane up their as possibly MOM. He certainly changed the momentum.

But watching back on the box afterwards, my view changed significantly. He made an awful lot of errors that against better sides could have proved costly.

Did you also notice that he was playing Loose Forward for most of the match?

I hope you're not waiting for my weekly Opta thread for those.

My source - the SL website - aren't interested in the Challenge Cup or strangely the SL Play-Offs so I get to have a week off on Cup rounds.

Perhaps one of the Trade papers will carry them - I don't get to see any of those living in Lincolnshire.

Surely you could do them yourself based on the recording of the game (presuming you have one as normal)


Just for Leeds mind, I don't expect you to do it for the Cru as well

So every single player that goes in at Dummy Half is classed as "playing hooker"? No, didn't think so.

McShane played Hooker. Did Buderus (being one of the best hookers in the world) occasionally nip in at Dummy Half? Yes, of course he did. But so did Hall, Smith, Burrow & Sinfield (at the least) so are you telling me we played a 6 hooker rotation formation?

Er, where was he at the end of the game when he scored the try that has gotten you so excited? He and McShane interchanged at hooker throughout the game. No suprise unremarkable rhino didn't spot this but I expect better from you.

The Opta stats for the game are in today's League Express...

I'm not telling you anything. I doubt you'd understand.

Are you telling me that Buderus didn't play hooker once McShane was introduced from the bench. Is that what you're saying?

What position was Buderus playing when he scored his try?

remember, you are the one claiming Buderus was not playing hooker. Explain what he was playing when he scored.