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Terrible the situation that Wakefield have got themselves in, and pretty low Hull and Huddersfield raping the carcass as the administrators asset-strip.

However...if we could work out a deal where we pay the administrators a fee for first option on Paul Johnson (the young one, not the old one), enabling the player to stay with Wakefield while they're in SL, then it would be worth thinking about. Assuming Peacock, Cross, Leuleui and Burgess will all be leaving in the next couple of years, we need a load of prop prospects, some of whom will make it some of whom won't, to come in alongside established players.

Having only seen him in the friendy and against Cas, Johnson looks a real prospect. I can't think of any other Trinity players who would improve the Leeds squad now or in the future.

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Quote: craigizzard "Terrible the situation that Wakefield have got themselves in, and pretty low Hull and Huddersfield raping the carcass as the administrators asset-strip.

However...if we could work out a deal where we pay the administrators a fee for first option on Paul Johnson (the young one, not the old one), enabling the player to stay with Wakefield while they're in SL, then it would be worth thinking about. Assuming Peacock, Cross, Leuleui and Burgess will all be leaving in the next couple of years, we need a load of prop prospects, some of whom will make it some of whom won't, to come in alongside established players.

Having only seen him in the friendy and against Cas, Johnson looks a real prospect. I can't think of any other Trinity players who would improve the Leeds squad now or in the future.'"


He looked no more of a prospect thaan Kyle Amour. He may well turn out better, but I notice you ommitted the name above.

If Leeds wanted to get in there quick then Ferguson should have been the one they went for. Missed out big time on that one, and once again the Huddersfield club show just how quickly they are moving up the pecking order with the big clubs.

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Quote: Gotcha "He looked no more of a prospect thaan Kyle Amour. He may well turn out better, but I notice you ommitted the name above.

If Leeds wanted to get in there quick then Ferguson should have been the one they went for. Missed out big time on that one, and once again the Huddersfield club show just how quickly they are moving up the pecking order with the big clubs.'"


I didn't name anyone, but yes Amor and Ambler fit into that category too and may or may not turn out better than Johnson. The point is that we need quite a few of them, and this could be way to increase our options without stamping on the carcass of another RL club.

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i was led to believe leeds were interested in ferguson last season. should have got the lad and let kirke go

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It all looks a bit bleak for Wakefield when their best players are (understandably) being picked off. I for one hope that they can conclude the purchase and that they will be viable in the future.

You can understand other clubs taking advantage of the situation, but that doesn't make it any more palatable. It's a bit like divvying up someone's estate before they are dead...

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Isn't allowing this Ferguson bloke to go to huddersfield effectively the same as us buying him and loaning him out for a couple of seasons, like we've done with Armor and Ambler?

After he's had a chance to prove himself at the top level for a season or two, we just move in with our money and big club reputation and snap him up, surely?

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Not really, as Huddersfield would have to have a "small club" reputation instead of our "big club" reputation, which I'm just not sure they do anymore. To me, Huddersfield are credible contenders, just like Leeds.

Regarding Ferguson, it has been said many times previously but when Leeds got Pitts, we took the wrong one...

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Quote: batleyrhino "Regarding Ferguson, it has been said many times previously but when Leeds got Pitts, we took the wrong one...'"


Not really. They took Pitts for a specific reason, it's just that the club have failed him with poor development of that. Example how many times has he played Prop? that was what the club signed him as and in the announcemnt said that is what he would be.

Pitts has been let down by Leeds previolsy, but now with a new coach who actually rates him highly, we will now see if it was a wasted signing or not.

Ferguson should have been snapped up previously whether we got Pitts or not. That's another lad that has wasted his last 18 months. Looked a miles better prospect than Joel Tomkins 18 months back, but been at the wrong club since. Plus the fact he had a few personal problems (ala Tansey and Pratt) that need resolving to get his head back in gear.

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Quote: craigizzard "Terrible the situation that Wakefield have got themselves in, and pretty low Hull and Huddersfield raping the carcass

Didnt we do the same to Keighley when we got Daryll Powell,Fleary and Farell.Didnt see anyone complaining then.The whole of Super League knew this would happen and widnes should have been brought in a few weeks ago at wakeys expense.The RFL should have insisted on looking at Wakeys' books to see what was happening,instead we have a (decent) start to the season with good coverage then just 2 days later a club is struggling. And people wonder why our game doesnt get the respect it deserves!!!!!

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Quote: batleyrhino "It all looks a bit bleak for Wakefield when their best players are (understandably) being picked off. I for one hope that they can conclude the purchase and that they will be viable in the future.

You can understand other clubs taking advantage of the situation, but that doesn't make it any more palatable. It's a bit like divvying up someone's estate before they are dead...'"


I think you are right it is a shame but I really can't blame other clubs, if players are being put on the market then that is not there problem.

The bigger issue for me here is why players are being put on the market by the administrator when they claim to have reached and agreement with a company to buy the club? Now, it must one of the creditors that is unhappy with the money being paid for the the club and therefore forcing the administrators to sell players to pay back creditors but who.... HMRC perhaps? And why are they possibly forcing O'Hara hand in this case and not in the case of Crusaders where they didn't get a single penny?

It smells a little to me at the moment, but the above is pure speculation at the moment... they could be very good reasons we are not aware of why this is happening. It will all come out in the wash, but will the RFL's hands be whiter than white?

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Quote: burleywhite "Didnt we do the same to Keighley when we got Daryll Powell, Fleary and Farrell.'"


Beat me to it! icon_smile.gif

Still, it did gain Leeds at least one new supporter from Keighley. Mentioning no one in particular of course eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Beat me to it!
I think there's a slight difference to what Leeds did with Keighley in that Keighley (iirc,and feel free to correct) had already "gone" from the top division.

If Wakefield had been demoted to the NL a few weeks ago, as should have happened, then I'd have less of a problem with other SL clubs taking their players. As it is, SL clubs are ensuring that Wakefield will be an embarrassment on the pitch all year in their own league.

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Quote: craigizzard "I think there's a slight difference to what Leeds did with Keighley in that Keighley (iirc,and feel free to correct) had already "gone" from the top division.

If Wakefield had been demoted to the NL a few weeks ago, as should have happened, then I'd have less of a problem with other SL clubs taking their players. As it is, SL clubs are ensuring that Wakefield will be an embarrassment on the pitch all year in their own league.'"


But even the RFL won't stoop that low mate, they would have had to kick out Wakefield and Crusaders to NL1 and that is not going to happen while ever Crusaders owe the RFL £700k. They will just wait to July and kick them out then instead via a fair and even assessment process! Also, Widnes would not be ready either at such short notice and which over club do you bring up as well?

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