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i dont think that any of the ref's in RL are good as such, but i think thierry alibert is not biased in any way, i just think he is bad. no disrespect to him, we speak often and he is a gentlman. I think that Ben Thaler is decent ref and he too is a very nice man who always has time to chat. If you dont understand a decision he made during the match, ask him and he will tell you what he saw and why the decision was made.
The one thing that I dont get is why Ganson is allowed to ref st's when he clearly supports them... otherwise he wouldn't have been on there committee.
I understand that being a ref must be a tough job due to the pase of the game, the angles they see some things and the fact that the touch judges cant keep up with the play not to mention 17000 people shouting at you!
Do you think we would be better doing what the aussies do and have 2 ref's on the field??

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in the last incident in Sunday's match Alibert didn't have a clue what had happened and also didn't know what to do

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Quote: peawapp "in the last incident in Sunday's match Alibert didn't have a clue what had happened and also didn't know what to do'"


Seconded. The TJ showed far more composure and control - he acted perfectly. Not sure about his view that Richards was taken out late.

Alibert said that he thought Donalds tackle was legal and then changed his mind after speaking to the TJ. He must have seen the challenge to have an opinion on it in the first place yet, from where the penalty was given, it's clear he changed his mind when speaking to the TJ. He should never do this unless he was unsighted for the incident. The Super League is not the place for Mr Alibert I'm afraid.

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Alibert is a complete tool. Always said he doesn't know the rules clearly and Sunday proved it. He didn't have a clue what to do.

I liked the part where the 'rookie' National League ref (who was touch judging on Sunday) said to Alibert, come lets go over here. It was the touch judge who took control of the situation and was telling Alibert what to do. He reminds me of Manwell out of faulty towers icon_lol.gif

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Quote: mirfieldrhino "Seconded. The TJ showed far more composure and control - he acted perfectly. Not sure about his view that Richards was taken out late.

Alibert said that he thought Donalds tackle was legal and then changed his mind after speaking to the TJ. He must have seen the challenge to have an opinion on it in the first place yet, from where the penalty was given, it's clear he changed his mind when speaking to the TJ. He should never do this unless he was unsighted for the incident. The Super League is not the place for Mr Alibert I'm afraid.'"


Alibert changed his mind after speaking to the video ref. He was going to give a scrum but the touch judge said 'i thought it was late but it's up to you' so he then asked Mr Bentham who called it as a late tackle.

I thought it was a comedy of errors. Penalty should have been given for Maguire taking out Carmont. I thought Donald knew what he was doing but made sure he was committed. When the ref then gave a penalty for the Donald one he should have then given it where the ball bounced. A complete balls up.

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Ball bounced out of touch, but I agree comedy of errors. Its the pinnacle of the SL season with just 4 games played, if thats the 4th best referee in the country then god help rugby league.

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "Alibert changed his mind after speaking to the video ref. He was going to give a scrum but the touch judge said 'i thought it was late but it's up to you' so he then asked Mr Bentham who called it as a late tackle.

I thought it was a comedy of errors. Penalty should have been given for Maguire taking out Carmont. I thought Donald knew what he was doing but made sure he was committed. When the ref then gave a penalty for the Donald one he should have then given it where the ball bounced. A complete balls up.'"


Ah yes Mr Bentham who, IIRC, never once watched the incident at full speed! What a great way to decide whether a challenge was late or not!

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One word to describe Halibut...........homer!

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im not saying Alibert is a good ref btw!!

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Quote: RoyFrancis "One word to describe Halibut...........homer!'"


A gay Frenchman?

No wonder the Cas fans dont like him!

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Quote: RhinoNeil "Ball bounced out of touch, but I agree comedy of errors. Its the pinnacle of the SL season with just 4 games played, if thats the 4th best referee in the country then god help rugby league.'"


Ball bounced infield then into touch but not the point as you had stated.

So because we have Catalans in SL we have to endure the token French referee at the same time???

Can't remember which play-off game it was over the weekend but there were 3 refs on duty, 2 of which were running the line.
And yet the highest profile game of the weekend (in my opinion anyway) and we don't even get one upto the job!

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A thread title like this , six and a half hours , and Mr Gledhill ain't posted .
Has he gone on holiday ?

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Quote: barrysgonnagetcha "Can't remember which play-off game it was over the weekend but there were 3 refs on duty, 2 of which were running the line.
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That was the Hull derby (biggest Hull derby for 25 years apparently, what game around '85 were the Sky commentary team referencing?) where Robert Hicks and James Child were the 'merry flag wavers'.

Ganson's continued absence is a problem. Ian Smith is the most logical video referee we have (I'd have appointed him for all 9 play-off games from a consistency point of view if nothing else) and that leaves Alibert as one of the four most experienced referee's available. On debut I thought he did an OK job overall although that view is informed by the favourable result.

It's highly unlikely he'll get another play-off game this season.

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Quote: barrysgonnagetcha "Can't remember which play-off game it was over the weekend but there were 3 refs on duty, 2 of which were running the line.
And yet the highest profile game of the weekend (in my opinion anyway) and we don't even get one upto the job!'"


Given Leeds' form over the last few weeks I think the RFL were probably expecting it to be less of a game than it was.

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