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| Quote: sgtwilko "www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
but what makes you think Australia is any different to most other 'civilised' countries?
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| Quote: J O N N Y "but what makes you think Australia is any different to most other 'civilised' countries?'"
my own expirence. and I was talking about the difference between Australia and our own country. Social casual racism is rife in aussie. A kind which is totally unacceptable in the uk. this situation highlights that! If this was in football and Stewart pearce had done the same in the England camp then he would be fired! his head would be called for! There is no wiff of johns losing his coaching role, infact the player has had to leave as he was so offended! Why does johns still have his job? Because casual through away racist remarks in aus are acceptable. Even within it's highest profile domestic sporting event origin.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "my own expirence. and I was talking about the difference between Australia and our own country. Social casual racism is rife in aussie. A kind which is totally unacceptable in the uk. this situation highlights that! If this was in football and Stewart pearce had done the same in the England camp then he would be fired! his head would be called for! There is no wiff of johns losing his coaching role, infact the player has had to leave as he was so offended! Why does johns still have his job? Because casual through away racist remarks in aus are acceptable. Even within it's highest profile domestic sporting event origin.'"
how do you know that it isnt tolerated in the uk? the only reason that this incident came to light is because timana tahu has walked out of NSW.
the amount of appaling coments that i have heard directed towards emile heskey in the last few weeks from people in my work leads me to think that casual throw away remarkd are also acceptable in the uk.
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| Racism is rife in the UK. It's embarrassing and wrong and needs addressing. It amazes me how many people say derogatory things and think it's acceptable. I'm not racist and have family members who are Chinese and I try to speak out against it but I often feel that I'm defending my view when actually I'm in the right.
I applaud Tahu's stand and wish more people the world over would take the same stance. We may then eradicate racism
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| Quote: J O N N Y "how do you know that it isnt tolerated in the uk? the only reason that this incident came to light is because timana tahu has walked out of NSW.
the amount of appaling coments that i have heard directed towards emile heskey in the last few weeks from people in my work leads me to think that casual throw away remarkd are also acceptable in the uk.'"
Well have the balls to pull people up! I do. stop been a part of the problem. around me and my social group it's totally unacceptable. I have a big expended family and racism has never been accepted. Maybe that's just my upbringing!
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Well have the balls to pull people up! I do. stop been a part of the problem. around me and my social group it's totally unacceptable. I have a big expended family and rascim has never been accepted. Maybe that's just my upbringing!'"
thats quite an assumption of me that you make there. and of my family, and of my friends.
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| Quote: J O N N Y "thats quite an assumption of me that you make there. and of my family, and of my friends.'"
sorry mate you've got me wrong! I was talking about my life not yours. My first comment was refering to you saying something in the work place where equality should be as standard. God knows where you work but it sound like something from the 80's to me?
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| Quote: Rhinos Fan Pam "Racism is rife in the UK. It's embarrassing and wrong and needs addressing. It amazes me how many people say derogatory things and think it's acceptable. I'm not racist and have family members who are Chinese and I try to speak out against it but I often feel that I'm defending my view when actually I'm in the right.
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If you think its rife in the UK then you don't have much experience of what it used to be like in the 1970s and 80s, things have improved beyond belief, partly due to the law enforcing racism as a crime and partly due to multi-cultural integration within schools.
I understand people of my fathers generation being racist, they know no better, people of my generation have a duty to keep their mouths shut if they cannot help themselves but more importantly to keep their mouths shut around their children - if they pass on their racism to their children then that is unforgivable because it is a taught response not a natural one.
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| bad mr johns, should know better.
Let me know if anyone has come across this though. My wife's church is predominatly attended by africans, and overhearing a conversation a couple of years ago she and her friend heard a chap from Nigeria say a racist slur about a white person who lives in his street. When my wife said that's a racist comment, he replied how can it be, it was about a white person, racism is when a non-white is abused verbally.
Everyone needs educating!!
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "If you think its rife in the UK then you don't have much experience of what it used to be like in the 1970s and 80s, things have improved beyond belief '"
Yes I certainly do have knowledge of the 70s & 80s - I ain't no spring chicken. Even recall some Indian friends being abused at school in the 60s. I couldn't understand then and I cannot understand now why skin colour or religion has any bearing on how you judge someone
It may have been worse then but it is still rife now. It is still a major problem
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| Quote: the wicker man "bad mr johns, should know better.
Let me know if anyone has come across this though. My wife's church is predominatly attended by africans, and overhearing a conversation a couple of years ago she and her friend heard a chap from Nigeria say a racist slur about a white person who lives in his street. When my wife said that's a racist comment, he replied how can it be, it was about a white person, racism is when a non-white is abused verbally.
Everyone needs educating!!'"
now that is Interesting. The man is correct by the letter of the law. Racism is abuse by the majority over the minority. As this is a White powered society(the Whites have the governing power and the population majority). that's how it was tought to me when I worked on a social work team at roundhay road social services after I left uni in 98 to 2000. I was indeed tought by my co-workers who were predominantly black and Asian that they couldn't be racist on the same grounds as the gent in your post pointed out.
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| you don't have to be white to be racist
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| Quote: TDR "you don't have to be white to be racist'"
totally understand you centiment! And i agree with that ideal.
but technically you are wrong. minority groups would disagree with you.
If a minority offers abuse it would be prejudice or xenaphobia
not rascim. Racism is about oppression! You can't be oppressed due to race or ethnicity if you are a part of the powered majority
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