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| If we get a new coach I would like Stephen Kearney - currently working under Bennett at Brisbane
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40956.jpg [b:1gxudtz3]Paul Storey assessed the daunting reputation of Doncaster's Belle Vue ground.
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| Ben Walker's doing a cracking job in country footy so he should be fine for SL
I'd have Paul "Stozza " Storey as No2
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| Oh get a grip Sal, FFS
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If we get a new coach I would like Stephen Kearney - currently working under Bennett at Brisbane'"
I am exactly the same as you. That is the perfect answer. It worked with Bluey, and he would repeat it.
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| Quote: loiner81 "Oh get a grip Sal, FFS
You may be right and he can turn it around - I personally think the will still make the top four - just but I think and have thought for the long term development of the club a change is needed.
There are very few Alex Ferguson/Wayne Bennet's on this planet and 6 years at one club is a long time and maybe a cultural change is required.
What made this club great was youth development - that has definitely slowed since his arrival.
He doesn't have the Sinfield's and Peacock's to get him out of a hole and he has shown he hasn't learn't his lesson his army mentality only goes so far you have to have some skill too.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I am exactly the same as you. That is the perfect answer. It worked with Bluey, and he would repeat it.'"
The way he carries himself is a credit - he is superb with the press win or lose and appears to have the respect of all the players he coaches.
He has had adversity and has been prepared to take a step back to move forward again - if ever there was a man who would enhance the Rhinos brand on and off the field he is it
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| Keiron Cunningham?
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| Are you seriously suggesting a 'culture' change is needed????
You want to change that culture that has seen us become the most successful team over more than a decade? A culture that has seen us time and again pick ourselves up off the mat when everyone is writing the team off to yet again take out the title. A culture that saw us take out a historic treble less than 6 months ago.... Jeez!!!!
Talk about needing/wanting a new coach is one thing, but talk of changing the culture of the club is ridiculous.
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| SL doesn't currently appear to hold a great deal of attraction to antipodean coaches who are aspirational. If you don't believe that, make out a list of the current 12 coaches of the SL clubs.
Brian McDermott or some other English SL Neville Nobody are the only options.
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| For what BMD has done with this club, he should get the rest of the season to fix up the problems we have. There are many problems, but some are very easily fixed and let's face it, to win silverware in this country you don't have to set the world alight. The difference between where we are, and where we want to be in the league is not so great, and if he can swallow his pride a little (unlikely in my opinion but there you go) and pick a Front Row that will be able to dominate, then this will give the halves more time to play a more controlled game. At the moment, because we are constantly losing the battle upfront, everything else is rush or panic football and we don't have the players to pull it off anymore. We also need to be able to play what is in front of us (like Gale pointed out during the post match screen session), rather than rely on individual brilliance that is nigh on impossible when you have so little time and confidence.
The thing I see as most disappointing is the relative lack of a production line in the youth teams which forces us to go to sign average players from overseas (as it's cheaper than players from UK, and we all know Gary likes a bargain). One thing that should be fixed up right now is the junior set up. I don't expect 2 or 3 players every year (1 every year should be possible), but we should be focusing on which positions we need to replace either the under performers or those that will retire in the next year or two (JJB, Burrow, McGuire, etc.) and therefore what we need from our juniors. This is the biggest priority in my opinion and somewhere over the last years we've (understandably) been short.
If we are still struggling for form and results when we come to the split, that's when GH needs to decide if we go again with BMD next year (and how they will change things to give us a much better chance) or if he should make a change for 2017. In any case we should only make a change at any point if there is a better option available.
Any talk of sacking the coach is very premature, but we do need to have a clear path forwards to get out of this (self made) hole and how we avoid it again.
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| Good luck with those junior production lines.
Just make sure all those players are the finished product by the age of 19, otherwise it's to the knackers yard for them OR a shelf-stacking job at Morrisons next door to that World Class University of Sports Science and Gymnasiums that the club are missing oh so much due to SPOTY, the Kiwis and the November floods.
Reserve Grades by plenty! (Oh, they no longer exist in Super Dooper League, do they?)
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| Who's available? Kearney would be a step up
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| rlIt'd be a huge step down for Kearneyrl
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| Quote: Superted "Are you seriously suggesting a 'culture' change is needed????
You want to change that culture that has seen us become the most successful team over more than a decade? A culture that has seen us time and again pick ourselves up off the mat when everyone is writing the team off to yet again take out the title. A culture that saw us take out a historic treble less than 6 months ago.... Jeez!!!!
Talk about needing/wanting a new coach is one thing, but talk of changing the culture of the club is ridiculous.'"
The culture hung around a small group of players dominated by two of them - neither of which are still with the club.
The ethos of basing the team on home grown players with a sprinkling of quality British and overseas players seems to have gone out of the window as somebody has pointed out Leeds could field a whole pack of overseas players.
This is not the club it was when the likes of Sinfield McGuire Burrow JJB first emerged its a much bigger beast - it needs to evolve to the next level if it is to remain at the forefront of the RL in this country for another extended period
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38511.jpg [b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox.
"He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If we get a new coach I would like Stephen Kearney - currently working under Bennett at Brisbane'"
im disappointed with you sal as id thought that you would have learn't from the knee jerking that you did when you said that peacock was finished in 2011 and shouldn't be offered a new contract?
or is this just a personal vendetta and dislike of yours of our most successful coach in history?
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