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| exiledrhino:Seth:ArthurClues:
Mat Peet is obviously a very good coach and maybe even a great one, but he's been immensely fortunate to inherit two lightening quick game breakers in Field and French. Parachute him into the Leeds job and the current squad and, just like Arthur, he'd be picking the likes of Frawley and Ackers until such time as they could be upgraded. If we haven't learned by now that chucking in 18/19 year olds from the academy leads to long term injuries we never will.
Very true, but Peet seems to be getting a lot more out of 'the likes of Leeming' than Leeds did. Dwyer is also going better now at Leigh too, broadbent seems well liked at KR and progressing well, Sezer did relatively well at wests and now at Hull, and Corey Hall even looks like hes coming on. I'm sure I've missed a few there too. What is the perpetual problem at Leeds... It's a good question - I think a lack of strategy and consistency has massively hampered us in the rugby department. We've been thinking too short term, and not competed enough at bringing the best juniors through the system. In a sense, I think Frawley is clearly a stop gap signing to allow one of our junior halves to come through without being such a big signing to block them. In terms of coaching we've gone from the strange David Furner spell, to JJB as caretaker, to Agar as temporary, to Agar as potential DOR then leaving, then the absolute massive gamble of Rohan Smith, and now we have Arthur who we know doesn't want to stick around. Every coach has to 'build their own squad', those squads need to settle and 'gel' and the short termism doesn't leave room for integrating junior players into the set-up. I'm hoping having Blease settles things down in that regard, but we definitely need more clear direction with how we recruit and bring through players, and make it clear to whatever coach succeeds Arthur that they will largely have to improve players we already have supplemented by a few signings to add quality. Great post and agree totally.
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| Jack Burton:
I never thought Leeming was that bad for Leeds, personally. I think he was, and still is better than Andy Ackers
Same. He was the best 9 we've had for a few years imo. We didn't do our job getting the best out of him.
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| Leeming seemed better at 7 than 9 for Leeds and had issues with his defence and distribution. And he obviously looks good with a better side around him. That said, I would have preferred to keep him at Leeds.
Not sure if Leeming is better than Ackers. Leeds version of Leeming on a good day is probably better than the Leeds version of Ackers. But I think Ackers is the more complete 9 - such a shame he hasn't really clicked at Leeds yet. Perhaps it is too soon to write him off, and that he will be better when (if!) the team settles to the way Arthur wants them to play.
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| yeah i think Ackers and Croft need more time yet.. and they need a much better pack to play with.
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| Not sure we'll go with 5 props in the 17. And Lisone should miss out. I think:
Miller Lumb Newman Handley Hall Croft Connor Oledski O'Connor Palaasia Bentley McDonnell Gannon
Holroyd Jenkins Frawley ECW
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| Really don't fancy us at all in this one but you never know. Crowd need to be on form to give the lads a boost thats for sure. Think Wigan may win by 16+ though... hope i'm massively wrong.
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| BAs interview suggests croft and frawley will be 6 and 7 O'Connor at 9. Sounded coy over where that leaves Connor
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| Connor at 4, Handley back on wing? Can dream
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| Seth:
BAs interview suggests croft and frawley will be 6 and 7 O'Connor at 9. Sounded coy over where that leaves Connor
If that's the case I'd be staggered. I get BA likes Frawley, and his defence is decent, but surely Connor at 7, Frawley at 9 with JOC as replacement is the way to go. Connor at 7 has been one of the few bright spots so far this season. We're not blessed with creativity, Connor gives us that. Plus he kicks.
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| ALAW:
Connor at 4, Handley back on wing? Can dream
There is that, yes. Though still think Connor offers more at 7 than Frawley ever could.
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| Seth:
BAs interview suggests croft and frawley will be 6 and 7 O'Connor at 9. Sounded coy over where that leaves Connor
If that`s the case it is very poor judgement from Arthur and doesn`t send the right message imo. Connor has over the last few games been more or less our best player and the only one with the skills to unlock a defence. Frawley on the other hand has been average at times and woeful with his kicking game similar to the season before. If he goes on to select Lisone as well then I really do not know what to make of his intentions especially as he has been very vociferous in saying those who perform will be selected.
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