All Leeds had to do to win the game was to cut out the dropped ball and respect possession.


Defensively we were fine, line speed fine. Quite a few individuals played well, e.g. ECW, Lumb, Gannon. I thought the forwards generally did well, and I thought Palasia was strong. The forwards can't really be blamed for not setting a platform if someone drops it every time we get into an attacking position.


Brodie Croft had one of his worst performances in a Leeds shirt. I'm starting to wonder whether he's the half we need. No doubt he's a skillful player, but most of what he is trying to do isn't working with the rest of the team, a bit like Sezer when he was here. I think we look more natural with Connor and Sinfield in the halves.


Early days yet. If we were the real deal we would have ground this one out, and snuffed out Wakey too. Still very much a work in progress. If we keep the line speed and defensive effort going hopefully the ball-in-hand stuff will improve and we'll get some wins.

Yeh, a really bad day at the office.
Frustrating cos Cats were there for the taking.
Mistakes cost us. Cut out some of those and we win that game.


The intensity, line speed and defence are really good.
BA has clearly focussed on that and it shows.


But the attack was just awful.
Croft had a shocker, but he's that kind of player. We have to stick with him.
Frawley offers nothing and Connor has to play in the halves.
But can't see BA doing that. Frawley is strong defensively and that's why BA likes him. 
Unless Frawley does a stint at 9 with O'Connor, because sadly Ackers has been really poor for us.


Both wingers played well.
Lumb looks better every game and will surely make the grade. At FB I expect.
And was impressed with ECW.


Also impressed with Jenkins and Palaasia - both ran well.
Thought Jenkins was the pick of the front rowers.
Gannon is looking really good. He plays instead of McDonnell who hasn't got going yet this season.


But the mistakes and lack of cutting edge cost us dearly.
Much to work on still.


Tough 3 games coming up now.
But I think that's a good thing.
We go into all of them as underdogs.
I think we'll get something from the 3 games.

Hastings or Pryce no not at any price thanks

BA surely has no option but to play Connor in the halves with Frawley concussed and Miller returning. If he does well there he would be very hard to drop. If Hall returns there is also an interesting call to make re ECW. I have no axe to grind with Harry Newman, but find it really hard to locate his threat nowadays. Can't remember the last time he beat a tackle or made a clean break. Could ECW have more to offer at present? Wouldn't make Arthur popular but it seems a bit timid to wait for an injury to find out.

On that last point I think Arthur still has credit in the bank with the fans whereas patience with the players is getting thin. Not sure Brad would cop too much flak for dropping anyone right now if it helped focus minds.

No forwards made more than 100M. Starting props made 13 and 10 carries. Interchange props made 3 and 11 carries. Can anyone see the problem yet? 


All of the other problems we have start here, we don’t win collisions and get on the front foot, leading to pressure on the halves and backs making mistakes.


Until this gets resolved we will continue to win one lose one, and struggle.

Totally agree and I would play ECW at centre with Connor in the halves.I would go another step further which again might not be popular and drop Ackers and have O`Connor starting with Sinfield on the bench to cover hooker.

Personally, I would’nt be looking at dropping Newman for ECW away at Saints in the cup. 
ECW has played 1 senior game in his career. 
I would hope that Arthur has a had a quiet word with a few of them including Newman.


Ackers looks pretty ponderous to me, I also think O’Connor has been pretty poor as well. I don’t know what the answer is at hooker.


The challenge in these next 3 games is can we score at least twice to have a chance of a win. I’m not confident.

Sadly, I'm starting to think the answer might be a new hooker. There was almost unanimous approval for his signing but Ackers has been very average since his arrival. Understand what you are saying re Newman/ECW, and I don't think Arthur will drop him. I just struggle to see what he's currently bringing to the table. He used to be a quick, athletic centre who lacked a bit of craft, but now he appears to have lost most of the former without rectifying the latter. 

Agree about hooker. Newman does not look as quick as he was. We need to find ways of getting him and others more front foot ball. 
The current plan seems to be bringing him back underneath and him going sideways, hoping someone jumps out of the line.


Hoping miller can add a bit on Friday but as Batley keeps saying, can we match them up front ?  I still think we need a big pack leader/captain type at no.8. 

Going back a few seasons now but I always thought Newman looked better at left centre. At right centre he always steps back in looking for a gap that never appears. That drop under play between him and Croft is pointless. Anyone remeber when/why he switched sides?