Leadership is still a massive problem in this squad.

You're dead right about that. After giving it a bit of thought the only natural leader I see is 21 year old second rower. Too soon for him though.

Yep couldn’t agree more with that. It’s going to take some time to fix that’s for sure 

On the positives, the defence is looking a lot better than in the last few years. Lumb and Gannon I thought were really good, and I actually think Palasia did pretty well in his first stint - he looks a decent signing to me. We missed Tom Holroyd, as Lisone didn't offer enough impact off the bench, and Jenkins was more steady than impactful.


When you're carrying a few passengers in the team, you can't afford for your good players to have an off day. Croft was awful, Connor missed that early chance, and Ash dropped the ball when it looked like he had broken clear. Our passing from dummy half was awful, no player caught the ball with momentum going forward, so many passes were overhead. Back row (Gannon aside) is also still a problem for me. That being said, I think out better players playing to their usual standard, and we win that game.


Looking forward to seeing Sinfield in the halves with Croft next week, as I just still can't see what Frawley offers. Would also look to start O'Connor over Ackers. The only way to get out of this Man Utd mentality is to bring through our own players. Jackson Hastings and Will Pryce are not the answer for me. The big signings over the last few years just haven't worked.

All Leeds had to do to win the game was to cut out the dropped ball and respect possession.


Defensively we were fine, line speed fine. Quite a few individuals played well, e.g. ECW, Lumb, Gannon. I thought the forwards generally did well, and I thought Palasia was strong. The forwards can't really be blamed for not setting a platform if someone drops it every time we get into an attacking position.


Brodie Croft had one of his worst performances in a Leeds shirt. I'm starting to wonder whether he's the half we need. No doubt he's a skillful player, but most of what he is trying to do isn't working with the rest of the team, a bit like Sezer when he was here. I think we look more natural with Connor and Sinfield in the halves.


Early days yet. If we were the real deal we would have ground this one out, and snuffed out Wakey too. Still very much a work in progress. If we keep the line speed and defensive effort going hopefully the ball-in-hand stuff will improve and we'll get some wins.

Yeh, a really bad day at the office.
Frustrating cos Cats were there for the taking.
Mistakes cost us. Cut out some of those and we win that game.


The intensity, line speed and defence are really good.
BA has clearly focussed on that and it shows.


But the attack was just awful.
Croft had a shocker, but he's that kind of player. We have to stick with him.
Frawley offers nothing and Connor has to play in the halves.
But can't see BA doing that. Frawley is strong defensively and that's why BA likes him. 
Unless Frawley does a stint at 9 with O'Connor, because sadly Ackers has been really poor for us.


Both wingers played well.
Lumb looks better every game and will surely make the grade. At FB I expect.
And was impressed with ECW.


Also impressed with Jenkins and Palaasia - both ran well.
Thought Jenkins was the pick of the front rowers.
Gannon is looking really good. He plays instead of McDonnell who hasn't got going yet this season.


But the mistakes and lack of cutting edge cost us dearly.
Much to work on still.


Tough 3 games coming up now.
But I think that's a good thing.
We go into all of them as underdogs.
I think we'll get something from the 3 games.

Hastings or Pryce no not at any price thanks

BA surely has no option but to play Connor in the halves with Frawley concussed and Miller returning. If he does well there he would be very hard to drop. If Hall returns there is also an interesting call to make re ECW. I have no axe to grind with Harry Newman, but find it really hard to locate his threat nowadays. Can't remember the last time he beat a tackle or made a clean break. Could ECW have more to offer at present? Wouldn't make Arthur popular but it seems a bit timid to wait for an injury to find out.

On that last point I think Arthur still has credit in the bank with the fans whereas patience with the players is getting thin. Not sure Brad would cop too much flak for dropping anyone right now if it helped focus minds.

No forwards made more than 100M. Starting props made 13 and 10 carries. Interchange props made 3 and 11 carries. Can anyone see the problem yet? 


All of the other problems we have start here, we don’t win collisions and get on the front foot, leading to pressure on the halves and backs making mistakes.


Until this gets resolved we will continue to win one lose one, and struggle.

Totally agree and I would play ECW at centre with Connor in the halves.I would go another step further which again might not be popular and drop Ackers and have O`Connor starting with Sinfield on the bench to cover hooker.