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| Quote: christopher "I’d suggest the reason we we winning a few games against Aussies in those periods was because we were actually playing them regularly and nothing to do with a poorly attended mud week game
I sense I'm not going to convince you on this, Chris. A couple of final points: since the last time the roses match was played in 2003 (we lost the Ashes series that year 3 - 0 by a combined total of 10 points) our combined GB/England record against Australia is won 2 - lost 17. Now, I accept that there are lies, damned lies, and there are statistics, but what I will say is that when the game was played regularly from the mid 80's to the early 90's our international performances improved out of site, and for the only time in my life there was actually a hope/expectation that we could win. Now again, that might be a coincidence but I suspect if you asked the likes of Hanley, Schofield and Reilly if they would be in favour of returning the fixture to its place in the calendar they would say yes.
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| If Wane wants the Roses match to be our Origin then IMG need to earn their corn for once and market it and push it and stick with it.
FWIW , I’d run a campaign and compare it to Origin and in short stress the history and extreme violence of the Roses and compare it to State of Origin.
Compare 40 odd years of origin and a few punch ups with a war that lasted 32 years with over 100,000 dead.
Show the skull found at Towton with the big hole in the back. Explain how Game of Thrones was based on the war of the roses.
Mention 28,000 dead at Battle of Towton
Get Sam Burgess talking to Gordon Tallis or modern age players ask them how many have been killed in the NSW v Queensland wars?
Then market it as
The Roses
Real war since 1455
See the next battle…
I get the points about us having less quality to pick from but I think if Wane backs it which he seems to be , players like say Minchella would see it as a great chance to put down a marker
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| It's not happening anytime soon
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IT AIN'T WHERE YOUR FROM, ITS WHERE YOUR AT.
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| Not with the Ashes apparently back on the menu.
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| The Tonga vs Aus game was excellent. Aus are there for the taking. The international game down under at least, is as strong as it’s been in a long time.
For me it’s up to England to A, take advantage of that and challenge, and B, take a bit of a lead for the game this side of the world.
Granted B is much harder.
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| The game doesn't have the cash, especially at a central level. The NRL bankrolled the Samoa tour.
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