Ok lets leave it there. The systemic response when folk are pulled up on using such language. Believe what you want or remain in your bubble if you like but this language is utterly appalling and the continued privilege of simply explaining it away by saying it is an "ok shortened version" or suggesting clunkiness or that I am somehow overreacting shows we have not really come very far at all. Nobody, NOBODY, should be using such terms.

That was the one he was coming out for the ball then stopped then went low and Struijk came to his rescue.
To think otherwise as Tad clearly does is living in cuckoo land.
Even picked up by the commentators.

but I don't have an agenda. he even got slated for not saving a penalty by some on here.

as you say. cloud cuckoo land

Rothwell would feel pretty pi**ed off if he was dropped on his current form to shoehorn Ampadu back into the team. We also lose the only consistent deliverer of a dead ball in the team. I wouldn’t want to go another 170 corners before we score again. As for Firpo / Byram, I don’t see it as that clear cut. A fully fit Byram gets in the team for me. Firpo is not a great defender and I’m happy when we’re on the front foot for that reason. He also doesn’t run in behind defences like Byram does, it can get a bit condensed when Firpo pushes up but doesn’t actually go past opposition defenders. It doesn’t help that we play with an inverted winger down his side. I think Bogle, despite his early critics, is the better example of an attacking full back.

Aye up mate.
I`ve been living in cloud cuckoo land for years, it`s not too bad
I know I come across as having an agenda where Messlier is concerned, same with Bamford and Harrison before that.
But I`m only commenting on how I see it which I`m sure to many is a bit bizarre.
Anyway I`m missing the Blackburn game as on my travels to Norwich so I won`t be having a go at anyone this weekend.

Totally agree. i wouldn't change that midfield in a million years. Midds away or Sheff U away might be tempted to put Ampadu in there but apart from that i wouldn't change it.