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Quote: batleyrhino "Let's take the points one at a time. Gannon, he's clearly a talented young player, but can't seem to get on the field. If he continues in this vein for another year especially if it's concussions, I'm saying we cannot rely on him to change that run and therefore we need to look elsewhere. He may go on to have a great year next year and become a first choice back rower. Who knows? All I know is that unless we are ruthless we will not transform the squad and playing ambitions.

Bentley is the one player in a smaller pack that can have impact. He's been much better under BA than before, like he now knows his role and is capable of it. We couldn't have a small pack, but Bentley plays above his weight and if he can continue to control his aggression and attitude he can be an asset.

Regarding McDonnell, I'm not sure I see an England regular there, but you're right he should be in consideration I simply missed him.

Frawley has improved, it would have been hard for him to get worse wouldn't it. He's not at the level we should be seeing from an import, if he can't pick up then he should be replaced by someone better. Back to being ruthless again.

Ackers, like every hooker will have trouble if his front row doesn't hit the line hard and generate quick ptb. We don't do this, practically ever, so Ackers doesn't shine. He's definitely a better player than he is showing and I think if we get the props right we will see a better player in him.

We agree that Sunday was a shocker, the biggest problem was attitude, which BA described as smelly in his immediate post match I/V. I feel certain that this is at least in part down to the mental capability of many of the players, their just not ruthless (there's that word again) enough to be winners. The lack of leadership also needs addressing, we don't look to have a competent captain among the current group, and the collective playing leadership is also sadly missing. These are also reasons why I would be looking to make so many changes.

Perhaps we have different opinions of the way forwards, perhaps we have different views on what success is? I would be willing to be ruthless to create a winning culture that permeates every part of the club. This is primarily sport, and secondly business, so what you might see as Knee Jerkery I see as cutting out the weakness and building strength. Alternatively maybe it's because I've finally started to watch Game of Thrones... Of all the new spine players I'd have say Ackers has been the most dissapointing. At least the others can say they have won or turned ganes. I can't think of a single game where the same could be said of Ackers. I think he gets an easy ride on here because at the time of his signing everybody thought it was a great addition. Unlike Frawley for instance. That's not to say I advocate getting rid of him.

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Quote: leeds owl "I think as Leeds fans we have become conditioned to accepting mediocrity as a step in the right direction. If you analyse the performances under Arthur we are far from a massively improved team. Beating a Wigan team that had played 3 games in a week was a standout, we’ve had a decent half here and there and people are knee jerking over the possibilities. The reality is people seem to quickly forget the poor games and halves under Arthur and even seek to promote an 18 point defeat to Warrington as an improvement even though we never looked like scoring until a second rower who is leaving put in our only decent kick of the game for a try. This team set the bar so low people have become blinded to how inept we still are and will be in the near future with this group of players.'"

Excellent posting, BA has been a welcome signing, improved our defensive pattern tenfold, unfortunately there is a limit to what a coach can achieve with a substandard squad.

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No-one wants to accept mediocrity. We do, however, have to accept reality, something a lot of Leeds fans are struggling with. Even if it were possible to sack everyone deemed unworthy of the current HKR and Wigan teams, we would be unlikely to replace them all with exactly the right players needed in one season. And like it or not, the chances are that they would need time to gel. There is no pathway to instant success - just look how HKR have built up gradually over the seasons.

What I want to see is sustained improvement, and that hasn't happened, which is a big disappointment for a club like Leeds. The only realistic way forward is a combination of a) investment in the best junior talent coming through, b) replacing players coming off contract with better players from outside or within, c) improving the way the current squad is coached and trained, and d) finding ways to move on contracted players not performing to standard, without damaging the club's reputation as a destination for top players.

It's maybe too early to pick the bones of this season. Looking back, the sweeping changes to the spine and the messaging coming from the club raised the expectations of fans and media to unrealistic levels. We knew that the forwards needed strengthening but I for one was hoping for the likes of Gannon and Holroyd to really come to the fore and establish themselves as real 'bolters', not to mention the likes of Hudson. Whatever team we have next year, I think setting more modest and realistic goals would be sensible, while improving as much as possible.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "No-one wants to accept mediocrity. We do, however, have to accept reality, something a lot of Leeds fans are struggling with. Even if it were possible to sack everyone deemed unworthy of the current HKR and Wigan teams, we would be unlikely to replace them all with exactly the right players needed in one season. And like it or not, the chances are that they would need time to gel. There is no pathway to instant success - just look how HKR have built up gradually over the seasons.

What I want to see is sustained improvement, and that hasn't happened, which is a big disappointment for a club like Leeds. The only realistic way forward is a combination of a) investment in the best junior talent coming through, b) replacing players coming off contract with better players from outside or within, c) improving the way the current squad is coached and trained, and d) finding ways to move on contracted players not performing to standard, without damaging the club's reputation as a destination for top players.

It's maybe too early to pick the bones of this season. Looking back, the sweeping changes to the spine and the messaging coming from the club raised the expectations of fans and media to unrealistic levels. We knew that the forwards needed strengthening but I for one was hoping for the likes of Gannon and Holroyd to really come to the fore and establish themselves as real 'bolters', not to mention the likes of Hudson. Whatever team we have next year, I think setting more modest and realistic goals would be sensible, while improving as much as possible.'"


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Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Excellent post. Yeah, that’s the realistic position. Fans getting upset and angry won’t sped things up. We’ve tried that!

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "
What I want to see is sustained improvement, and that hasn't happened, which is a big disappointment for a club like Leeds. The only realistic way forward is a combination of a) investment in the best junior talent coming through, b) replacing players coming off contract with better players from outside or within, c) improving the way the current squad is coached and trained, and d) finding ways to move on contracted players not performing to standard, without damaging the club's reputation as a destination for top players.
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c) is the quickest to achieve, b) can be achieved over the next couple of years, quicker [iif[/i d) can be achieved. Unfortunately a) will take much longer to filter through to the first team and will not benefit from BA's influence and is dependent on Blease ensuring that the club as a whole ensures continued investment and development of young players.

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