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Quote: KaeruJim "Woken up mate? We’ve been mostly gash for almost ten years, this isn’t an epiphany moment shared only by the enlightened few.

It’s not rocket science, we need better players and effective coaching both.

People tend to look at a rugby league side in absolute terms because it’s how we like to compartmentalise. The truth IMO is that we need at least three, maybe more real high quality players. We don’t need to, and can’t, change the whole side.

There is absolutely no guarantee Leeds will make top six this year, or next. What we do is change one or two things at a time and we evolve into a stronger club.'"

You may have been aware of the situation, gash as you quaintly call it. Certainly not everyone on here until recently shared your opinion. Likewise the club who should have fired smith months ago. You say we need three quality’players, agree with that. Agree also we can’t change the whole side. What needs to change is the lack of intensity within the team, a good hard nosed coach can Change that. Look how saints piled into Wigan last night.
I was out the country for the leigh game so I can’t comment on that. But most of the time we seem to be off the pace for the majority of games. As several posters have commented, god alone knows what they do in training.

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I wouldn't be surprised as he comes in with fresh eyes, shirt numbers will mean little and usually those further down the numbers are usually less experienced, not necessarily not as good. I
One I'll be interested to see what happens with is O'Connor, smith turned him into a 9 but I think 13 is a better fit and I think he'd be better there than smith at the minute so the halves are expected to dictate play more.

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I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.

Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.

Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.'"

Turned O'connor into a 9 and the rest into headless chickens.

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He wasnt a 9 Before smith arrived, then he was a 9. Whatever the reasons smith still turned O'Connor into a 9.

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