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| In fantasy world I'd get two aggressive props, a powerful second row and keep Martin. Would not be upset at all to lose Donaldson, Bentley, Sangare, Lisone and Goudemand to make room. I know people talk about Bentley's strengths, but they will only really work if he's part of a big pack, as he was at Sts, and I'd rather keep Martin if have the choice. The others listed just aren't good enough for the first 17.
Some others need to be on notice. Holroyd for one, although its easy to forget that despite being around for a while he really hasn't played a lot. But he needs to show he can get to a decent standard and stay there. I'm particularly disappointed by his lack of impact with the ball. He's massive, and yet like so many of our forwards he gets stopped dead in the tackle.
Another one, who I'll take stick for, is Cam Smith. Making a lot of tackles doesn't make up for being neither a good link man or a battering ram forward, which is what good sides have in their 13. Hopefully a new coach can find a way to make him work, because in too many games he looks like a Championship player.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "Yep hard truth is we can't afford genuinely good NRL props in good form - although said it before but Mitch Garbutt was a really good signing at the time. I thought he was up there with the best props in whole competition for a couple of years.'"
It's by no means impossible though. Look at Amone, Mago, and Satae. None of of them had really broken through over there, but they've been great in SL. Simply put, we need to try harder and do better when it comes to recruitment.
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| Quote: chapylad "I really rated Holroyd when he burst on to the scene and he did pretty well in the England Academy.
He seemed to go off the boil after his sending off whilst playing for Bradford.
Maybe someone told him he needs to curb his aggression and its affected his game.'"
He was also back on the boil enough in his first full season to get an England cap
Lets see how he goes under a new coach
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| Will be harder with is being abit of a show the last few years with regards to silverware and league position etc.
I know it was a different time during the golden gen but ad Sinny said, players down bigger deals elsewhere to win and play at Leeds.
We no longer have that ,so players will cost more
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| Quote: Trebor1 "I think he's well passed his best if I'm honest but could still be very useful over here.. depends on his attitude - he may be able to do a good 3 seasons here if he's up for it.'"
3 year deal would be a disaster currently hes a shadow of the player he was and is blowing and struggling with the pace of the game after 15 minutes. As an impact off the bench he would be an upgrade on Lisone and improve our go forward but his value would deteriate as he got older. We need an aggresive starting prop who can play decent minutes and carry the ball regularly. Lisone is a bench prop Sangare will never be good enough and should be 5th or 6th option and Holroyd has just not kicked on playing only around 40 games in 5 years and with the ball offers even less than Sangare. Unfortunately these guys are contracted so its not a problem thats easily solved.
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| Holroyd is still young and has come through our own academy, he's worth a place in the 17 when fit and should get better with age and experience.
Think I agree on some above comments - we've had our fingers burned more than once signing big names whose best years were well behind them. We probably need more of an undiscovered gem with the physical attributes to cause problems. I have said we should splash the cash for the right player but if you're talking £400-500k a year with a long-term commitment it probably isn't justifiable really.
Be interesting how Blease handles things.
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