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| Quote: Les Norton "With the ball he looks a natural and fluent 9. Something we’ve not had for a while. I agree his defence needs work. Until he gets decent game time at this level, we’ll never know.
It doesn’t surprise me you being overly critical of him, you’ve expressed negativity about him on here on countless occasions.'"
Thats because people like you keep bigging him up into something he’s not. He gets plenty of game time and shows very little, and I’m not the only one who just isn’t getting it, i just don’t see what you are seeing in him,
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| Lads get coached in defensive line all the way through juniors, I don't think Smith has ruined these players or the side, that's just hyperbole.
Agree with the original post, good summary. We need a more aggressive and systemic defence. O'Connor runs out to put a hit on which is great when it works, but other than him McDonnell makes extra efforts for kick pressure etc and that's about it.
Ironically line speed is your ally when you're giving away size/power to the opposition, the worst thing you can do is invite a bigger opponent space to build up momentum.
The new coach and Blease I'm sure will be aware of this. Like I've said before, we likely need both better players and a more experienced head coach. I will point out that nearly every club employee I've seen interviewed has been glowing about RS and sad to see him leave.
There are lots of irritating habits in the side I think. I was nowhere near as rabid as most on here to oust RS but if we get the right man in, I think a fresh voice and some re-focus will do us good.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "Lads get coached in defensive line all the way through juniors, I don't think Smith has ruined these players or the side, that's just hyperbole.
Agree with the original post, good summary. We need a more aggressive and systemic defence. O'Connor runs out to put a hit on which is great when it works, but other than him McDonnell makes extra efforts for kick pressure etc and that's about it.
Ironically line speed is your ally when you're giving away size/power to the opposition, the worst thing you can do is invite a bigger opponent space to build up momentum.
The new coach and Blease I'm sure will be aware of this. Like I've said before, we likely need both better players and a more experienced head coach. I will point out that nearly every club employee I've seen interviewed has been glowing about RS and sad to see him leave.
There are lots of irritating habits in the side I think. I was nowhere near as rabid as most on here to oust RS but if we get the right man in, I think a fresh voice and some re-focus will do us good.'"
Interesting regarding the rhinos staff sad to see him leave, as a side issue I know several ex super league players and one super league coach. They all speak highly of Agar. Funny old world.
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| So your argument is that you know better than Chev Walker, Jarrod O'Connor, Mark Butterill etc plus the players and coach you mention?
Austin wasn't a fan of RS but then he was a toxic and anti-authoritarian and contrarian figure his whole career.
I'm sure things will come out as time passes, but as it stands we are getting a new coach in soon so RS is fish and chips paper.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "So your argument is that you know better than Chev Walker, Jarrod O'Connor, Mark Butterill etc plus the players and coach you mention?
Austin wasn't a fan of RS but then he was a toxic and anti-authoritarian and contrarian figure his whole career.
I'm sure things will come out as time passes, but as it stands we are getting a new coach in soon so RS is fish and chips paper.'"
Were you referring to my post ? Anyway it’s not as simple as your quaint reference to fish and chips . The new coach will inherit a sub standard squad of players. Most of them have for months under smith showed no sign of improvement, many have gone backwards. Plus the fact the squad has never played with any kind of structure or game plan. I refer you to once were loiners recent excellent posting regarding our playing structure .
Have a look at the league table , our position after all the money spent is scandalous.
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| I don’t accept that version of where Leeds are at or that Rohan Smith has ruined Leeds etc.
We are in my view probably three starting players short of a top 4 side.
Not easy to do but hardly cataclysmic.
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